Narmer (Reign: ca. 2650 B.C. — 2632 B.C.)
Narmer, also known as Menes, unified Upper and Lower Egypt for the first time and, therefore, founded the first dynasty of a unified Egypt.
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Coincidentally, why were the noses destroyed on the statues?
You know why…
Harold Snooky's Boy Carson Can you enlighten me on why?
All the images that are depicted on temples, tombs, and even on The Sphinx were of blacks (Africans). Explorers came to Kemet (Egypt) and defaced as many statues and images as they could. Napoleon blew off the nose of The Sphinx with dynamite. So, it's based on envy, hatred and disbelief that Africans were intelligent enough to build the world's greatest civilization…
They destroyed the noses to hide the fact that all pharaohs were black people,but can u see 1 of them had rasta? And we all know rasta is an Afrikan culture
Wanjiku Mzuri Figured. & Yeh i noticed
King Djoser was one pharaoh who seemed to be rasta…
Maybe it's because the nose is stone, like the rest of it? And it portrudes more than the ears? Seriously?
Next you gonna say it was the GOP than busted it?!
I mean, that shit is 4500 yrs old. It's bound to wear. Probably has to do with the integrity of the carving and time/degradation.
LOL. Guess thats the reason why so many noses are broken off of the statues in rome as well then? Seriously people: the major parts to break off of a statue are the head and all the protrustions on it, the hands/fingers as well as legs etc. But yes it is true that invading people did smash the statues of the ruling class and their gods so a broken nose here and there is not uncommon. Next.
corrosion, its statues all over the world with damaged noses and anything protruding from the statues. I highly doubt someone is going accross the world chipping noses off of statues
the sphinx was damaged way before napoleon entered egypt.
that napoleon done the damage is a lie told in the hood
Wanjiku Mzuri i believe you mean dreadlocks and thats not an african culture. if you research dreadlocks you will find out the truth .
there have been no mummies unearth with dreaded hairs as of yet
Recently DNA tribes did a preliminary genetic study on King Tut and found that he was overwhelmingly black African with SCANT traces of other ethnicities within his DNA. But, white folks continue portraying King Tut as lily white or"mixed." White folks, including some "educated" ones, actually believed that King Tut and Egyptians of that period were mostly of Western European descent. The reason white folks have a problem with the truth of ancient Egypt being black is because in Western Europe they were living in caves and they themselves were pre-literate. See, this upsets the whole myth of white supremacy. lol.
Is India and Pakistan in Africa? Wow, I learn something new everyday. LOL.
Travis Mack I knew you would take the bait. You do realize that DNA consultants did an analysis of 16 STR markers, which is more than adequate, that demonstrated the same findings that DNA tribes found, overwhelmingly black african, with SCANT markers of European ancestry. How does that make you feel?
You do realize the information in the source you're using has been debunked? You are aware that Hawass's team that did the DNA analysis came out and said those markers you're source is quoting weren't Tut's? Below is an analysis Hawass's actual markers done by DNA consultants. Poor Travis.
I knew you would take the bait, though. You're so transparent. DNA consultants did an analysis of King Tuts DNA, using 16 STR markers, which is more than adequate, that demonstrated the same findings that DNA tribes found, overwhelmingly black african, with SCANT markers of European ancestry. How does that make you feel Travis?
A good essay. Excellent photos. There are many, many more that could also be used. I almost wish that I could draft a supplemental list. The noses missing is not racial. Can anybody site evidence to show that "they" knocked the noses off because the pharaohs were Black? Of course you cannot. That argument is based mostly on emotion, not historical facts. It is what is sometimes called an urban legend.
Travis Mack You do realize the information in the source you're using has been debunked? You are aware that Hawass's team that did the DNA analysis came out and said those markers that were inadvertently leaked on T.V. weren't Tut's markers? Below is an analysis Hawass's actual markers done by DNA consultants. Poor Travis.
I knew you would take the bait, though. You're so transparent. DNA consultants did an analysis of King Tuts DNA, using 16 STR markers, which is more than adequate, that demonstrated the same findings that DNA tribes found, overwhelmingly black african, with SCANT markers of European ancestry. How does that make you feel Travis?
Travis Mack You do realize the information in the source you're using has been debunked? You are aware that Hawass's team that did the DNA analysis came out and said those markers that were inadvertently leaked on T.V. weren't Tut's markers. By the way, I knew you would take the bait. You're so transparent, using a white supremacist site as a source? I'm surprised. Anyway, here are the findings, DNA consultants did an analysis of King Tuts DNA using 16 STR markers done by Hawass's team, which is more than adequate. The findings demonstrated the same results that DNA tribes found, overwhelmingly black african, with SCANT markers of European ancestry. How does that make you feel Travis? Stupidity and arrogance is a dangerous combination, isn't Travis?
If you want to know the true nature of your "white friends" and "white lovers" just say "Egyptians were mostly African of course until other Europeans came into the land Ptolemy, Alexander, Arabs, etc" watch how quickly they respond in defensive disposition regardless of how many white scholars have told them otherwise. A white person, esp in the states, i by nature just as Eurocentric as his/her European ancestors because it is they who have told the His-tory of the world and not the people of these lands. If they told the truth as it was, is, and whatever it was there would be no need for any entity to debunk. People like Travis, web talkers, can't last two minutes with me on scholarly debates. All you have to do is listen to them regurgitate what their euro predecessors have "taught" word for word to know what they are about. Only a true fool would say that black people would say "they beez like" and then in the same sentence call other people ignorant. Travis, as convenient as true niggas like you, yes you are very much one, to lump all people of African descent into one category, you can't. I promise you have African DNA running all through your biological makeup. Why? Because just like many black people, niggas, you would believe the European even if you knew he was telling a lie. Come see me. Let's go to Aswan, where i have actually been, and ask those people. Wait, you'd probably convince them that what they are telling you isn't the truth and to believe what you have said. Just like your European oppressing, lying, ancestors. This is why, by and large, no one, no people of color anywhere you go trust white people. Excuse my ignorance..people of European descent. By the way, why are you on this page?
hey dummy you think at the border of egypt and kush the people magically changed from black = african to ……………………. you fill in the blank !!! yea i have been to egypt , several times ! and yes there are many present day egyptians that consider themselves black = african . man you can't be that stupid !!! no i think your just a troll ! brown skin !!!! we come in a lot of shades ! yea india , south pacific , including hawaii !! damn you mad ?
Absolutely true, of course……
Rwandans have decoded Tut's Characteristics and analysed all that he was and found him to have been Tutsi.His name means "Hail Cow of God" in Rwandan.
Ezra Greer Absolutely true…people have no idea that Egypt and Ethiopia upstream from the Nile as the "Blue Nile" were dark-skinned….and that the one who unified Egypt was a black man….of which there is no doubt whatsoever….
Abanyarwanda Abarundi Again…beyond doubt……
Collin Johnson Not Just King Tut but many other kings have been found to have more similarities with Tutsi traditions.traditions. Their names and symbolism depict a tutsi people.Pharaohs like Ramses,Khasekamw,Shabaka,Amenhotep,Horaho,Kamose,Queen Tiye etc
Collin Johnson Absolutely true that the early Pharaohs before Ptolemy were black…people have no idea that Egypt was part of a Double Kingdom. and Ethiopia upstream from the Nile had brought the ruling class into Egypt when they conquered it, as the cobalt blue-black race itself, as the native who lived by the "Blue Nile" were dark-skinned….and that the one who unified Egypt first was a black man….of which there is no doubt whatsoever….except to mentally challenged racists…..of which there are far too many….
Absolutely true that the early Pharaohs before Ptolemy were black…people have no idea that Egypt was part of a Double Kingdom. and Ethiopia upstream from the Nile had brought the ruling class into Egypt when they conquered it, as the cobalt blue-black race itself, as the natives who lived by the "Blue Nile" were dark-skinned….and that the one who unified Egypt first was a black man….of which there is no doubt whatsoever….except to mentally challenged racists…..of which there are far too many….even here
Shawn Mc True, but Napoleon's men used the Sphinx for target practice, it is said, and witnessed by many who were there….
Travis Mack where is Egypt? Answer: Africa. Where do black people come from? Answer: Africa. Where are whites primarily from? Europe, Sweden, Italy, Greece, Rome, etc., but NOT from Africa. Egypt is NOT separate from Africa as some would have us to believe. YOU DON'T KNOW ANY EGYPTIANS EITHER. The evidence is clear. I'm gonna give you ONE EXAMPLE (and I doubt that its gonna make a difference to you, and that's fine). Look at the statues that guarded King Tut's tomb. Those statues were painted BLACK! Not white, not brown, not beige, not natural, not ivory but BLACK! THE ANCIENT EGYPTIANS WERE BLACK. Now, if they weren't black, why would they choose such a color? Why are almost all the images of pharaohs, gods and goddesses' noses disfigured or destroyed? I'm eagerly waiting on a response… or none at all……….
Travis Mack Travis Mack We all know official DNA tests are run by consipiratory entities behind closed doors.Also running DNA tests on samples from a Caucasian copse live on tv and pretend to be TUT's tissues being tested is beyond.People are awake for that these days.You cant fool people all the time
Shawn Mc I stand corrected my brother. Please fill me in on who the real culprit was…
Finished and done… LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Harold Snooky's Boy Carson Napoleon brought with him a large group of "savants" to conduct the first scientific study of Egypt and its antiquities, why would he do that and shoot at the statue.
published in the University of London's Bulletin Of The School Of Oriental And African Studies (BSOAS), vol.43 (1980) p.55-66, states that according to Makrizi, Rashidi and other medieval Arab scholars, the face of the Sphinx was vandalized in 1378 A.D. by Mohammed Sa'im al-Dahr, a "fanatical sufi of the oldest and most highly respected sufi convent of Cairo." The nose and ears are mentioned specifically as having been damaged at this time. According to one account, Haarmann states, the residents in the neighborhood of the Sphinx were so upset by the destruction that they lynched him and buried him near the great monument he ruined.
Harold Snooky's Boy Carson In 1380 A.D. the Sphinx fell victim to the iconoclastic ardor of a fanatical Muslim ruler, who caused deplorable injuries to the head. Then the figure was used as a target for the guns of the Mamluks." In the book The Egyptian Pyramids: A Comprehensive Illustrated Reference (Jefferson, NC: McFarland, 1990), p.301, the author, J.P. Lepre, adds the fact that, in addition to the 14th century damage, "The face was further disfigured by the eighteenth century A.D. ruler of Egypt, the Marmalukes [Mamluks]."
Ase' brother…
The report "The Peopling of Ancient Egypt and The Deciphering of Meroitic Script" debated the ethnic origin of ancient Egyptians and was held in 1974 between Egyptologists Europeans and Arabs in one side and Africans in another.
This debate was a turning point in favour of the worldwide acceptance of blackness of ancient inhabitants of Egypt and the blockage done by European descendent egyptologists against Cheikh Anta Diop work.
The french africanist Jean Dévisse who in 1963 accused Cheikh Anta Diop of racism, was committee's rapporteur but in 1974 shifted partially his opinion, and accept ancient Egyptians were partially black, and 1981, openly admitted beyond doubt that ancient Egyptians were FULLY black, and the reason he refused to accept the blackness of ancient Egyptians was because ancient Egypt civilisation was so advanced that it couldn't be produced by Black people.
He was honest enough to say openly what many white Egyptologists keeps quiet their racist feelings about Africans.
Professor Jean Dévisse, the Committee's Rapporteur, prepared the final report of the symposium stating:
"Although the preparatory working paper sent out by Unesco gave particulars of what was desired, not all participants had prepared communications comparable with the pain-stakingly researched contributions of Professors Cheikh Anta Diop and [Théophile] Obenga. There was consequently a real lack of balance in the discussions."
[The Peopling of Ancient Egypt and The Deciphering of Meroitic Script]
http://unesdoc.unesco.org/images/0003/000328/032875eo.pdf
An abridged version of the final report of the symposium can be read in the volume II of "General History of Africa", Annex to chapter 1.
http://unesdoc.unesco.org/images/0018/001842/184265eo.pdf
Another landmark date is the international conference held in Barcelona, Spain, 2008 about ancient Egypt and Africa, co-organized by spaniard scholar Ferran Iniesta, of Barcelona University, the author of the 1st book written in spanish defending that black Africans built and ruled Ancient Kemet (Egypt), "Antigo Egito, La Nacion Negra", Sendai edition.
The rise and fall of civilisation is a very interesting subject.
Europens in middle age lost the memory of ancient civilisation of Greece for about a thousand years after the fall of Rome.
Western knowledge of ancient Greek ideas began to revive in Renaissance Humanism, via the Moors and Arabian tradition, that preserved the Ancient Greek and Roman knowledge.
The recent awakening of modern Africans has the potential to unlock the creativity and get rid of any inferiority complex imposed by white imposters, and realise no historic success is permanently irreversible or no failure unsurmontable, and each culture must, in each period take its responsability before history.
@Collin Johnson, With all due respect, it's better not debate with this inferior monkey bastard named Travis Mack.
He's a fucking piece of shit. Obviously, he's an inferior and so retarded coming to this site. What can we expect from a monkey coming straight from Stormfront's idiocy?
What is he doing on this page? PAID TROLLING. Where ever we congregate, they follow. Now do any of you go trolling on Stormfront's msg boards since he had the nerve to call this site 'racist'? As if….lol..pathetic fool shill.
Travis Mack Your FBI masters really don't equip you with much, do they? NOBODY believes whites. YOU HAVE ZERO CREDIBILITY the WORLD OVER. lol..glad that dull sociopaths such as yourself can get jobs. Too bad it's spreading sh itstory instead of HISTORY.
# Tavis Mark.Ancient…. Mohenjo Daro statuettes are Black women with thick lips and wide noses and kinky hair.Mohenjo daro civilisation was where modern day Pakistani is located.
Carlos Abreu I feel you, but I think its good to "debate"white supremacist because, they reveal their lies, deceptiveness, pathology and often times down right stupidity. Unfortunately, there're many whites of influence and authority in the academic world that think the way he does. Did you read the misinformation in the link he provided? These clowns think King Tut's DNA is predominantly Western European. And, this is based off snippets of DNA they saw on T.V. , that as they say, were "inadvertently leaked"I think the program aired back in the late 90's. This idiot posts this shit, not realizing that one of the geneticist on that same T.V. program said those DNA markers that were seen on T.V. was not Tuts. The point of this is to see the lengths many whites will go to uphold the myth that they were always on top.
Travis Mack What I want to know is simply this: If ancient Kemites/Egyptians were white, why did they come ALL THE WAY DOWN TO AFRICA to build these magnificent monuments that have lasted for millenia BUT ostensibly LEFT NOTHING COMPARABLE in Europe, where whites say they are originally from? Does that sound logical to a normal, sane person? And has anybody seen what they are trying to pass off as european pyramids? lol..it's laughable.
Collin Johnson I agree with you. The more he copies & pastes lies, the more opportunity those who have VALID & LEGIT info can share the truth with other brothas & sistahs who may not know this info. So he's actually doing all of us a favor. And it really just shows how desperate and scared these people are. Their house of lies are being exposed on the daily. What goes on in the dark WILL always come to light. May take some time, but this is a trueism.
Lol is the internet thug talk necessary? lol.You obviously have no sense of history and are talking out of your own twisted perceptions of race. I've been to Egypt. Aswan, Nubia, Cairo,etc. I have lived all over the African continent. You do know what the official name for Egypt is now right? Google it . If you believe that the modern inhabitants of Egypt are the same people of the ancient Egypt, then our discussion is over. By the way, Arabs are considered Caucasoid "Racially" speaking anyway. You are basing your foolish "scholarly" rants on Dna studies which is absolutely unreliable, esp when it is being done by European institutes. The cultural dynamic of Km.t is shared all over the African continent. The history is African history and the tour guides will tell you as much. I did "ask" the Arabic speaking people there, guess what, they couldn't care less. They also told me where to go to see what the original inhabitants looked like. South. They in no way, because of Islam, want to be associated with Ancient Egypt. As a matter of fact, look at how they treat the historical sites there..no respect whatsoever and I am to believe that they share ancestral lines with Ancient Egyptians. I am not in to fanaticism. Egyptians were African, whatever you believe that is has nothing to do with me. I can tell by your phrasing that you are bigot. Add me as a friend on Facebook so you can see some of the pictures I have taken of Arabs soliciting and smoking cigarettes near the historical sites and of the true inhabitants of the land who live in the south. That'll at least prove that Egypt is an africa? Or is it Travis? Perhaps the implausible "Middle East" term would be better for you ? Negroid or no( Another pejorative dubbed by the ignorant European), they were African and that can't be disputed. But I'm sure you'll find a way to do it. My question again, and ill ask it one last time…WHy are you here? If we are ignorant and foolish for "believing " what is being shown on this article, why does that bother you if you are indeed correct? Let us live in our fallacy and go back to your centrism. You managed to bring up Sumeria and the like, which I'm sure had a good population of "negroids"/"ethiopians" whatever the term "black" was then but we are not talking about that. Just answer the last question.
Travis Mack Mongols and Vikings weren't black. They certainly weren't African, just as Cleopatra wasn't African, just as Alexander wasn't. Have you ever been to Egypt or have you ever taken any course, any, on Egyptology?
Travis Mack, are we supposed to believe EVERYTHING YOU SAY about our people? Funny thing about white folks is that no matter what we think, we are supposed to believe what YOU say. Now, the brothers have given you undeniable evidence, but all you can say is that the Egyptians of today aren't negroid. This is true. NEWSFLASH:We're not talking about today!!! The topic is focusing on ancient Kemet,which is part of Africa (formerly known as Ethiopia)!!! Do me a favor… Get some data backed by numbers or historical figures and get back with us because your personal opinion isn't classified as facts…
Travis Mack Poor Travis. LOL, The link below totally dismisses everything you just wrote , because the information is based on what you and eurocentrist think is King Tut's DNA. Sad.
http://www.livescience.com/15388-discovery-channel-tutankhamen-dna.html
DNA consultants did an analysis of Hawass's recent genetic analysis of King Tut, I believe it ended as recently as 2010 and was published in JAMA. See, Hawass didn't state Tut's race when the study was published, all that had to be done was to analyze the results he and his team obtained.
Hawass didn't want to damage Afrocnentrist that's why he didn't want the info to come out ? Hawass hated afrocentrist and couldn't stand Ivan Van Sertima in particular. So, let me get this right, are DNA tribes and DNA consultants conspiring against eurocentrist? You're right on time with the white supremacist playbook; first there's deception via defection, obfuscation and finally when you're cornered you play the victim. smh.
"Collin Johnson Look at zahi Hawass HIMSELF, ALL OF YOU idiots- does he LOOK like a black man to you!?!?" Really? Hawass has as much in common with ancient Egyptians as you and I do with Native Americans. I'm not going to waste my time giving you a basic history lesson on Egypt.
Another thing, the purpose of DNA tribes and DNA consultants work was to determine the racial ancestry of Tut based on genetic markers seen in populations today. Even the link/eutimes that you provided understood that and stated that in its severely misinformed article. Work on your reading comprehension.
Travis Mack Travis, get off that meth. DNA markers from T.V. that were supposedly Tuts, that proves he had common ancestry with Europeans 9,500 years ago? We both read the same article, the critics say the ones making the claims you're stating were "unscientific", the claims are "impossible" and like they said, Igenea is just trying to drum up business. Some of the criticism are coming from the German geneticist who took part in study on Tut. Maybe the German is a race traitor, a sand nigger lover, perhaps? lol.
DNA tribes defects? Well, DNA consultants got the same results when they analyzed Hawass's work, and that is, King Tut was overwhelmingly black African. Do you have evidence to counter this? Do you have evidence Showing King tut had common ancestry with Europeans 9,500 years ago? The answer is, no you don't.
And STILL Travis Mack hasn't brought ANY concrete evidence to negate what has been discussed. Give me something… ANYTHING noneuropean that can help you. Because the way I see it (and others too that are on this blog), you shouldn't even BE IN THIS DISCUSSION! These are black men talking about THEIR thoughts. It's like Malcolm said "it's just like if you got some coffee that too black, which means it's too strong… What you do? You integrate it with cream. You make it weak. If you pour too much cream in, you won't know you ever had coffee. It used to be hot now it becomes cool. It used to be strong now it becomes weak. It used to wake you up now it just puts you to sleep." -Malcolm X
Travis Mack Ancestors of Mongols are Khoi Sans now still found in Kalahari.We don't claim Vikings to have been black.Vikings are remnants of mutated/or genetically engineered Nordic/Aryan race that came on scene very recently in the history of the solar system.The Portuguese and the Spanish could never have reported anything good that they came across on the African west coast because they did not arrive as journalists and good tourists or traders with good intention at heart but thieves.A thief invades to steal and destroy.They instead credited all they found to themselves.
Ras Aleph Judah Respects to you.Great knowledge.Actually Africans find more Bantu words in Sumerian writings than they can trace in Egyptian language at the moment.Sumerian language is very much closely related to Bantu.Findings from what was decoded off Sumerian tablets faced the same deal of White washing as with what was decoded off ancient Egyptian records.All Sumerian King's names are Bantu.Someone tried to Europeanize and Arabize them but it did'nt quite fit! Still an Afro linguist can see what the original names were.Literally the whole Sumerian King list is still interpretable phonetically in Bantu dialects.King DUMUZI,ALLLIM and ENMENLUANA exerted power in the middle while based Around Zambezi river and Nile Source.They ruled the whole world for over 100,000 years before Egypt and Sumeria became two distinct civilizations.But they are only recorded in Sumerian legend.They were had a level of immortality to them.And Yes,They were Negroid.
Carlos Abreu update those resources, we come a long way since 1974, dna is way more reliable than he say she say
(waiting patiently on the raw data.) Travis Mack…
As far as the sphinx goes, I had heard that Napoleon didn't blow it off with dynamite, but that his soldiers blew it off with cannon fire in order to calibrate their artillery. Without looking it up, though, I'm not sure. It's possible it was gone even before Napoleon got there. In any event, I think removing noses from statues for the sole purpose of "hiding" the ethnicity of those they depict is a silly explanation for the lack of noses on some statuary. Clearly, these figures sometimes still look "African" in their other facial features. You can tell a black person by things other than their nose, physically, just like other ethnicities have distinctive physical/facial features other than their noses. A lot of these "nose removals" predate Eurocentrism and Imperialism. Anyone who has seen a documentary or two knows that often successive kings would deface or otherwise remove references to previous kings for various political reasons.
You know, just because you say it doesn't mean WE HAVE TO BELIEVE IT. Just like some whites are foolish enough to believe that they founded this country. You didn't find you INFILTRATED IT. YOU STOLE IT! Just like you've stolen EVERY SINGLE INVENTION, EVERY IDENTITY OR ASSOCIATION WE HAVE WITH OUR COUNTRY, OUR HISTORY, OUR CULTURE. EVERYTHING you have today is DIRECTLY DUE to our uncompensated work for our 500 years. YOU HAVEN'T PRODUCED ANYTHING! Just weapons of warfare. Ways and means to kill. If it weren't for you weapons, the ancestors would've NEVER let you take our people away. You have what you have because you've taken what you've stole…
Travis Mack Actually, many academics wouldn't say with confidence that the Sumerian civilization preceded Egyptian civilization. Saying that the Sumerian was the first "civilization" or that the Sumerian civilization came a 1000 years before Egypt is misleading. Many sources indicate that the Sumerian Civilization "matured"between 4000 and 3000 B.C, which could mean at 3000 B.C or anywhere in between. On the other hand, Egypt was UNIFIED around 3100 B.C, which means Egypt had by many academics definition, the qualities of a civilization prior to Egypt being unified.
You are right about one thing Travis, the relationship between the Sumerians (Sag-Gig-Ga) and the Egyptians is an interesting one, indeed. For those who don't know, Sag-Gig-Ga is what the Sumerians called themselves, it means the "black headed people."
Travis Mack Yes, 100,000 years ! ancient records indicate that:
ALULIM ruled for 8 sars (28.800 years) of reign
Dumuzi the shephered 36.000 years of reign
Enmenluana 12 sars ( 43,200 years) of reign
Ubara Tutu 18,600 years of reign.
These Kings were not just ruling what secular academia says
was modern day Iraq and Iran but the whole world.There was something supernatural
about them and they were pro nature and so they based themselves not
just around Tigiris and Euphrates but around water bodies and mountains in sub Saharan Africa.Evidence left behind Africa by these Kings is explained in Michael Tallinger's Book -Slave species.Quoting your comment above….They were on earth way earlier than formal books state.
you say- "If there were Sumerian words in Bantu it would be because the Bantu TOOK THEM from the Sumerians. The Sumerians were a very influential people and would have encountered bantu when the latter were conquering parts of sub-Saharan Africa and moving northward to get to whitey's rich civilizations."
There were no white people on earth at that time.Period!Bantu and Sumerians were same Blood.But their kings were half gods or gods.Your mindset is shrewd in a superiority complex.The idea that Bantus should in all means have been a conquerable people reveals how ignorant and a little bubble you desperately want cling in.
Why even have discussions with this bigoted contrarian? It's a waste. He believes his facts are absolute. He is the type of man who goes to places where people are self proclaimed blacks and coerce them into believing otherwise because it isn't coming from a scholarly place. He doesn't like black history outside of International enslavement of Africans. Semantics and the like. It's ridiculous. I want to know why is this dude on this page looking for debates. He's throwing out so called facts that could be easily debunked with new information because it constantly is. "Whitey's rich civilization". BOers are African? Ask a Boer if they consider themselves African . Modern Arabic speaking people in Egypt don't even consider themselves that. The same Europeans that gave us this information are the same ones who went to Zimbabwe, saw castles and gave the credit to foreigners. Only a fool would let his oppressor teach him. Stop replying white boy( i am relegated to name calling . Worry about your race being genetically wiped away because your not changing anyones position on here. Always the ones who have never been to these places that have the most rhetoric to regurgitate.
@Ras Aleph Judah, This is exactly what i was thinking. It's mind boggling why Black people want to change the way Whites think about us. Maybe it has to do with the black desire to be loved by Whites.
This is NONSENSE. Those monkeys like TRAVIS MACK don't come here with open mind, in pursuit of knowledge. Fucking piece of white trash like TRAVIS MACK are the scum of the earth.
Giving close and thoughtful attention to his internet profile we see in TRAVIS MACK a pimp face, and his mouth makes me to remember a white guy who was once my neighbours and later i discovered he used to work as male prostitute. I guess what a scum like TRAVIS MACK does for living!
What we blacks should realize there a warfare going on against us, and TRAVIS MACK of this world are foot soldier of a much wider design of global white supremacy system.
Those scum are the weak link of a powerful white elite in business, politics and academia. They can't say openly what monkeys like TRAVIS MACK said, because there to much at stake not to lose.
The enemy need an inferior idiot guy like this YURUGU to be at frontline.
We are at silent war, but unfortunately many blacks don't believe it.
And this repeated mistake gives whites a huge advantage.
Well said Bro.
Travis Mack i can see that u don't bielive in what you say that why we can see so much hunger in ur speech.It is true that there were some other countries around Kemet(Egypt if u want) but in the south we also have Soudan, Ethiopia, Somalia who are blacks skins population.We also know that 1 of the first King pharoe Narmer was from Soudan, science prooved that the first pyramids are in south not as bigger as in egypt but it is the improvement,, nowhere else in the world we see older pyramid, most of Ramses creations are in Assouan in the south where is a black area, look at the face , the apparence of all first and greatest Pharoe no discussion is possible, they are all black(négroid),.I don't know what is ur aim but i can just advise u to learn the truth to be a wise and free.Centrism doesn't bring anything good but hate and ignorance.We can learn each other without agressivity and vilence only the truth is good for every one.Thank you for your attention.
Why are you on here!!!
so, you're claiming blacks invented the transistor and the airplane, along with the telephone and AC generator?
Ras Aleph Judah, as a white American I'd like to apologize for the ongoing imperial arrogance of my people and say that , as a solidarity with African liberation activist and frustrated history major, I appreciate your accurate assertions of the African origins of Ancient Egyptian and indeed all western civilization. I'm a big fan of Chiek Anta Diop (sp) and, politically an active supporter of the African People's Socialist Party USA through the Uhuru Solidarity Movement, So that's why I'm here, in unconditional unity. Thank you! Black Power is people power! Reparations Now!
Collin Johnson Travis Mark deleted his comments!!! lol
James simpson, you are a piece of shit
Abanyarwanda Abarundi I noticed, that's interesting. It's a shame, because it was good to see the arguments white supremacist have. It's good to look their arguments over and dismantle them.
Something odd about Travis Mac, I remember a comment he made, he said, to paraphrase, slaves (black people) didn't give us calculus. I looked through the comments on this thread and no one wrote that. But, I remember debating someone named "Dew Time" on the story relating to what white Brazilians did to the Afro-Brazilians( the story headline with the statue of Jesus overlooking Rio De Janeiro ). Dew Times facebook picture was that of a young black male who was a math tutor, but what was odd about Dew Time was that he was espousing the same white supremacist rhetoric. I remember pointing out to Dew Time that the beginnings of calculus was found on the Moscow papyrus. The Moscow papyrus is an Egyptian document dated back 1820 B.C.. I told Dew Time that on the cosmos program, they said Isaac Newton "invented" calculus, but made no mention of the beginnings of integral calculus in ancient Egypt. I told him that European intellectuals such as Gerald Massey had suspicions that many European intellectuals of note borrowed heavily from ancient Egypt and others in the past. For instance, it was known that Isaac Newton was familiar with the ancients work. Interesting, indeed.
Very refreshing…..good to know your history…Black people will rise again…
Not all statues had Large noses & or lips but most did so sense white Ppl are NOT equipped with natural voluptuous noses , lips & I'd like to throw in Melanated Sun Block))) lol……they wanted to keep there lil* White lie *going so in order to say they where the true original egyption they had to go around the world & chisel,paint,deface, all Egyptian statues that would Brazil who the true indigenous people are! …. with that done they can put up the BS)) argument that white people aka the European is the true Egyptian= jus more White man lies and only a Fool or modern day house [email protected]@a/coon would believe anything otherwise !!!!!.
Truth
http://youtu.be/C1gIc1td-7E?list=PLjepirGYPuES4JDX7lCR-J575F4cTq0Hi
I read many of you books..Thank you!
The Black Seminoles are Black Indians associated with the Seminole people in Florida and Oklahoma. They are the descendants of free blacks and escaped slaves – maroons – who allied with Seminole groups in Spanish Florida. Historically the Black Seminoles lived in distinct bands; some were slaves of particular Seminole leaders, but they experienced more freedom than in white society, including the right to bear arms.
Today, Black Seminole descendants live primarily in rural communities within the reservation of the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma; its two Freedmen's bands are represented on the General Council of the Nation. Other centers are in Florida, Texas, the Bahamas and Northern Mexico. Since the 1930s, the Seminole Freedmen have struggled with cycles of exclusion from the Seminole Tribe of Oklahoma.[1] In 1990, the tribe received the majority of a $46 million judgment trust by the United States, for seizure of lands in Florida in 1823, and the Freedmen have worked to gain a share of it. In 2004 the US Supreme Court ruled the Seminole Freedmen could not bring suit without the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma, which refused to join it on the claim issue. In 2000 the Seminole Nation voted to restrict membership to those who could prove descent from a Seminole Indian on the Dawes Rolls of the early 20th century, which excluded about 1200 Freedmen previously included as members.
Huni kinda looks like KRS-1 imo
Christopher Witt Diamant also The modern cosmology Nebular hypothesis derives from the much older ancient African Kemet Memphite Theology in Kemet mythology in which the, God of Fire, Sun & Creation known as Atum aka Atom made from his body parts 8 other Gods known as the {Ennead} i.e (a group/ set of nine.) These gods included Geb the earth god, Shu the god of air/wind, Nut the sky goddess and Tefnut the goddess of moisture. From them came their children the gods of opposites i.e male and female unions, Ausar the God of omnipotence (All mighty all powerful) omniscient (knowledge, knowing everything). his wife Auset goddess of health, love, Seth god of evil and chaos and Nebthet goddess of underworld and death. this was established 4000 B.C before christ & before the bible and before greeks were even a civilization or people. These nine entities also correspond to the modern science of the solar system and sun and from which it created eight other parts, (the planets) from itself. It is from these entities that other religions were copied from.
Philosophy, medicine, Kemet aka egyptian mystery system, Memphite theology etc were all stolen African teachings. the greeks are erroneously and wrongly credited for these vast teachings as it was the North Africans of ancient Kemet who first established these practices and knowledge. all whites did was invade and try to usurp the thrones from African Kings & Queens. Hatshepsut, Ramses II, Tutankhamun, Akhenaten, Narmer, Taharqa, Piye, Tiye, Neithhotep, Yuya, Tjuyu, Mentuhotep, Amenhotep, Khufu, Khafre, Djoser, Menkaure, Nefertari, Nefertiti, Seti I, Thutmose III etc etc etc were ALL Black African people with clear African features!. The Seven Liberal Arts; grammar, rhetoric, dialectics, geometry, astronomy music & arithmetic all originated from the ancient Kemet (egyptian) mystery system as well as philosophy, theology, memphite theology, cardinal virtues and spiritual rituals etc North Africans aka egyptians were the true authors/ teachers as Africa has a few thousand years ahead of europe. all greeks did was invade and steal ancient African doctrines and books from royal libraries.
The Seven Liberal Arts; grammar, rhetoric, dialectics, geometry, astronomy music & arithmetic all originated from the ancient Kemet (egyptian) mystery system by North Africans aka egyptians. All Hierogrammats were also instructed to know the curriculum of geography, cosmography as well as the topography of egypt & land surveying. Also the sciences of monuments of pyramids, temples, libraries, Obelisks, Sphinxes, m architecture, engineering, sculpting, metallurgy and many more. We know that greeks had absolutely nothing to contribute to the origin of these teachings, because it took Africans a few thousand years to accumulate this vast knowledge.
The modern cosmology Nebular hypothesis derives from the much older ancient African Kemet Memphite Theology in Kemet mythology in which the, God of Fire, Sun & Creation known as Atum aka Atom made from his body parts 8 other Gods known as the {Ennead} i.e (a group/ set of nine.) These gods included Geb the earth god, Shu the god of air/wind, Nut the sky goddess and Tefnut the goddess of moisture. From them came their children the gods of opposites i.e male and female unions, Ausar the God of omnipotence (All mighty all powerful) omniscient (knowledge, knowing everything). his wife Auset goddess of health, love, Seth god of evil and chaos and Nebthet goddess of underworld and death. this was established 4000 B.C before christ & before the bible and before greeks were even a civilization or people. These nine entities also correspond to the modern science of the solar system and sun and from which it created eight other parts, (the planets) from itself. It is from these entities that other religions were copied from.
the greeks are erroneously and wrongly credited for these vast teachings as it was the North Africans of ancient Kemet who first established these practices and knowledge.
Also we know that greeks can't claim the authorship of the ancient teachings as they were persecuted by their own anthenian government for introducing foreign divinities into athens. That's why socrates was sentenced, for teaching what he learned from the African religions and philosophies. Our African people of course had different aspects of nature incorporated into their deities such as tefnut, shu, nut, geb, Ra etc.
all whites did was invade and try to usurp the thrones from African Kings & Queens. Hatshepsut, Ramses II, Tutankhamun, Akhenaten, Narmer, Taharqa, Piye, Tiye, Neithhotep, Yuya, Tjuyu, Mentuhotep, Amenhotep, Khufu, Khafre, Djoser, Menkaure, Nefertari, Nefertiti, Seti I, Thutmose III etc etc etc were ALL Black African people with clear African features! The Seven Liberal Arts; grammar, rhetoric, dialectics, geometry, astronomy music & arithmetic all originated from the ancient Kemet (egyptian) mystery system as well as philosophy, theology, memphite theology, cardinal virtues and spiritual rituals etc North Africans aka egyptians were the true authors/ teachers as Africa has a few thousand years ahead of europe. all greeks did was invade and steal ancient African doctrines and books from royal libraries.
Hahahah, most of these don't even look like black people! Borderline with some of them but not certain, you want to see real black people? Type "ancient nigerian statues" on google. Some of the men here (who are not black) have similar facial features.
http://mathildasanthropologyblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/upper-egyptians.png
Sorry Delusional Black Supremacist Afro centric idiots. Enjoy your fantasies because Ancient Egypt was never black, all of this is nothing but Pseudo Science and DNA tribes has been exposed as a fraud. There have been multiple genetic studies on Egyptian origins, DNA tribes is the only one that says they are black, DNA tribes is nothing but a site out to make money and they use this false fact to get more black people to buy from them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY9Kexbbqsc It was debunked here.
Do you seriously think the originators of ancient egypt were black? It is fact that ancient egyptians depicted the black nubians to the south as different from them in their art and it is also fact that Ancient Nubia assimilated into ancient egyptian culture.
http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/egyptians-are-not-arabs-they-are-egyptians/ Multiple genetic studies prove only 5-10% of modern egyptian genetic ancestry comes from outside of africa and the only Egyptians who do look black are the small minority of mixed looking Nubians and less mixed nubians!
tinyurl.com/fayum55 These portraits were made during the Greco-Roman occupation of Egypt, most of the portraits are not of Greeks or Romans but of Egyptian people themselves and none look black!
http://mathildasanthropologyblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/oldkingdomscribe.jpg Old kingdom statue, does this really look like a black man? Hahaha, the Old Kingdom period is the third oldest period in ancient egyptian history, before any mass foreign invasion.
http://www.africanart.org/uploads/products/images/final_ife_frontbookcover_tiny_copy2.jpg Ancient nigerian statue, clearly there is a difference in facial features compared with the ancient egyptian one.
http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pgen.1002397
Genomic Ancestry of North Africans Supports Back-to-Africa Migrations OVER 12,000 YEARS AGO! North African populations are distinct from sub-Saharan Africans based on cultural, linguistic, and phenotypic attributes;.
http://www.solargeneral.org/wp-content/uploads/library/ancient-egypt-race-issue.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_history_of_Egypt#DNA_studies_on_modern_Egyptians Genetics proves that only 10-15% of modern egyptians DNA has been influenced by foreign people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9CkTGSFUSc Depictions of black nubians different from ancient egyptians, fact is, Ancient egyptians depicted black Nubians as different from them, they made them have more Negro facial features, african hairstyles (that are still comon with some tribal african cultures today) and much darker skin. Egyptians never depicted themselves with Negro facial features!
http://imgur.com/a/CFnzX Some face comparisons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY9Kexbbqsc Even more proof.
http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/mummies-and-mummy-hair-from-ancient-egypt/ Nubian mummies clearly had different hair texture compared to the non-nubian ones which had long straight hair like Caucasian people.
http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/07/22/the-faces-of-ancient-egypt/ Scroll down on here, the Fayum mummy portraits before the Arab invasions, it was revealed most of the portraits are not of greeks but egyptians.
https://www.youtubecom/watch?v=pKB8LcnSHBY
Published on 5 Oct 2012.
Sumeria had close Neolithic ties to Egypt during its formative years leading to the spark of Egyptian.
civilization. No Nubians contributed to Egyptian state formation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2PJKAub5hI&list=UU0rUGW01rnYEVYCF7RB7GKQ
Stones, bones and DNA don't lie. Negrocentrics do. This vid provides a listing of the bulk of Egyptian genetics and their place of origin, in addtion to the anthropological aspect as well as a brief discussion on artifacts. The listing of artifacts is too massive for what is mentioned here. See also Egypt's Sumerian Relevation.
Shawn Mc you are sooo wrong. Try this http://mathildasanthropologyblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/nubian-mummy.jpg
No coincidence. They had to erase our history in order to rewrite their own…
Time's up.
Abanyarwanda Abarundi hAHAHAHAAHHA, your picture is the result of your laughable delusions you pathetic ape, enjoy your fantasies, ancient egypt was not black
Sorry idiots, ancient egypt was never black, historical evidence proves it, the mummies proves it and genetic evidence proves it.
http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/egyptians-are-not-arabs-they-are-egyptians/ Only 5-10% of modern egyptian dna comes from outside africa and the only egyptians who look black are the small minority of mixed nubians and lesser mixed nubians who are in egypt
http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/mummies-and-mummy-hair-from-ancient-egypt/
The Nubian mummies have a different hair texture and facial features while all the egyptian mummies have Caucasian skulls and straight or braided hair , ahahahaha
You afro centric black supremacist losers are a joke, I like how you retards ignore the fact that egyptians have been depicting black nubians in their art as different from themselves for a very long time. Stupid idiots.
http://imgur.com/a/CFnzX Some face comparisons.
tinyurl.com/fayum55 These portraits were made during the Greco-Roman occupation of Egypt, most of the portraits are not of Greeks or Romans but of Egyptian people themselves and none look black!
Genomic Ancestry of North Africans Supports Back-to-Africa Migrations OVER 12,000 YEARS AGO! North African populations are distinct from sub-Saharan Africans based on cultural, linguistic, and phenotypic attributes;.
http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pgen.1002397
Ancient egypt was obviously not black, enjoy your fantasies.
Ancient Egyptians were dark Africans some of which still survive around lake Victoria today.The facts that they were Egyptians is still embeded in their languages which eurocentrists have at least failed to distroy
Physical anthropology and genetics proves that the ancient Egyptian pharaohs were Caucasian not black
Blacks have the smallest brain capacity and lowest average iq of 80-85 barely above that of a retard. Blacks couldn't even invent the wheel let alone build pyramids lol name one single thing invented by blacks in antiquity? And we're supposed to believe that the ancient Egyptian pharaohs were black lol
Btw the haplotype group E originated in the middle east and migrated into north Africa 32 k ago. The only two black sub Saharan haplotype group are A and B
Robert Bellus or maybe you are the one who is a delusional white supremacist fool!!!? how about looking at it that way?
Black power is past power.what are we doing for today and beyond.good for you you were once called Egyptian.
Robert Bellus your emotional outbursts prove what a low frequency s.o.b you are.I dont wish to reduce myself to your low level status.I see that you have forwarded pseudo links as references.This time around we are smart to sift through all your consipiratorist's efforts to fake evidences in the name of science and so called high scholarship.Any DNA experiments that did not involve highly respected black scholars as witnesses is a fraud.Its not only about ancient Egyptians being black ancient Greeks were black too.Socrates was Black.Now that will disturb you even more.Deal with the fact
Ok but why do so many African Americans and West Indians look down on modern day sub Saharan Africans, and yet clamour to prove ancient Egyptians were African? Why this misplaced adoration of ancient Egypt? Even if they were African , most Africans taken into slavery were from West and Central Africa so probably little or no ancestral link. All Africans are not the same. Its a HUGE continent. For ancestral links to Africa, African Americans and Caribbean should look to Ife Bronzes for illustration, not Egyptian Pharaohs
you cannot say that Egyptians was black people, then go back to say the Israelite was black people.that would be a terrible mistake. not necessary in this column it is said 'but many blacks said so .
And it would be you're as is in you are not your
Robert Bellus So Troll how much are you being paid to be stupid, Don't reply back , you have been debunked.
William Eaton, don't make it look like you know me or my culture. your best would be newton and evolution. Don't bother replying back, your a nobody for knowledge.
thats science not reality, stop taking up space here with that non-sense, next
Shawn I know plenty about what African blacks call culture I've seen how blacks shower in Africa it's called a cow urine shower
William Eaton Ok, I am not african. so what is your point. For starters, I won't reply back after this one, because you are unlearned, and really know nothing. you may act smart and think you know, but you know nothing about me or my people. so stop while you are ahead. Plus you not on my level. And yes? I know that for sure. So check out you have been fed , no tip needed. Keep it and gain some real knowledge of your own history first. That's why you wan't ours, cause you don't have none of your own, or you don't have any worth putting in a museum.
William Eaton No i meant what i said YOU!
Buwahaha is that the best you can do? Try actually getting out of the ghetto and to a museum to see the mummies for yourself
Blacks couldn't even invent the wheel lol name one single thing invented by blacks in antiquity?
William Eaton So? when nothing else to say , you correct my grammar. typical.
Hahaha science is reality you dumb ape
William Eaton nope monkey, mostly theory. , still not smart yet. stop following me I am already done with you. let me be dork!
Hahaha theory ok. Obviously never seen a black skull next to a chimpanzee skull lol. And what color eyes, hair and skin do gorillas have? Black
William Eaton Really why? are you still talking little girl, I said done. evolve a little higher and understand , If you want to look smart or act like you are, fine. But i am not convinced.
Too bad most of the noses are broken off…I wonder why….not really.
we must find out why the The noses are missing? who did it? why?
Collin Johnson I was in Egypt for 20 years.
, Ancient Egyptians Were Black!
They destroyed the faces to try to erase them from history, because they believed their image had to be preserved so they could be Gods in the afterlife.
Why are the majority of statues and images of the Egyptian nose and mouth destroyed? What are European and modern day Egyptians afraid of? We all know why, it is perfectly obvious they were black. Napoleon was a well-known racist that was noted by Alexander Dumas, a black man who wrote novels about Napoleons hatred of his father who was the inspiration for "The Man in the Iron Mask," The Three Musketeers. When Napoleon arrived in African and Egypt, he could not stand the very thought of black people having so much culture and knowledge of all things, he allowed his men to destroy the noses and mouths of the Pharaohs of Egypt. Tell me how many conquerors have taken Egypt? Modern day Egyptians are the result of multiple conquests and racial mixing. Read your Bible.
Magma(joke) I feel sorry for you. Do you even understand the concept of WHY we have color or lack of color to our skin? If you did then you would understand the truth of indigenous peoples of Africa and make no mistake, Egypt- Kemet – burnt skin, is part of Africa. It is a known fact whites rearrange historic facts to fit the agenda. Who really is the ethnocentric fool? You, you sad bigoted fool. STAY OFF OUR PAGE!!!!
All ancient Egyptians weren't black. I believe it wasa mixed society as all of that region was back in the day… And somewhat even now. Though, there is certainly huge conglomerate of propaganda that pushes a European/white/Caucasian agenda to make the ancient Egyptians look as FAR from black as possible… For obvious reasons… Enslaving and oppressing the founders of modern day civilization looks kinda bad and throws that whole 3/5ths's of a man belief into question.
Gee, so were supposed to believe all these Egyptian statues throughout history just had really fragile noses and that there was no adequate black actors to play the pharaohs in the exodus movies? Considering the track record of the society involved, you struggle to think racism could be a reason?
one must look past bias and see the historical fact of who has invaded egypt through the years and who was in power after those invasions according to historical records the pharos have been of every race that existed at the time excluding asian.
The Pharaohs were black originally, up to the reign of Nectanebo II. He was the last native Egyptian ruler of Egypt until the 20th century. He was toppled by a Persian invasion and the Persians put their own new dynasty on the throne. Then in 332 BC Alexander the Great conquered Egypt and he placed a Greek (white) family on the throne of Egypt, known as the Ptolemies. Cleopatra was the last in the line of the Ptolemy dynasty, when she died in 30BC by suicide Egypt was conquered by the Roman Republic lead by Augustus Caesar. He declared himself Emperor of Rome, and after that all Emperors of Rome were allowed to use the title Pharaoh but only whilst in Egypt itself. Arabic culture came to Egypt in force after the fall of the Roman Empire when Egypt became ruled by Islamic Empires from the 7th century AD onwards and they really made the face of the Egypt we see today.
Ramasses II & III both have Y-DNA E1b1a, same as men of sub-sahara African origin and African-Americans too!
I had no idea that people were still debating this issue…………European imperialism had an agenda and it did not include the elevation of non-whites………you do the math..
As I've said in the past, if race is no big deal with modern depictions of Ancient Pharaohs, let Whoopi play Queen Elizabeth in the next five movies they do about her
To the gentleman who says the noses knocked off was not racial I went with Dr Ben and Dr Clark to Egypt in 1991. When we asked why the flat noses were missing…we were told erosion..
Notice how their noses are all conveniently "damaged". That's not a coincidence.
…also the Ottoman Turks who actually were the 'last' of the foreign invaders and ruled longer. The present day population would be from Turkish-Arab descent for the most part. Good post by the way, I enjoyed your take on the subject.
I believe as you do also, BUT for us NOT to repeat the same 'emotional bias' as the European Egyptologists it's better to wait until knowledge is born (the study).
Say that!
I will put it succinctly as possible; the pre-Persian, Greek, Arab, Romans, and Turks 'ruling class' were African Black. Pre, pre, pre!
Robert Aurelius: YOU ARE confusing the term 'ancient' which IS too vague of a historical marker to accurately outline Egyptian History. I'm going to help YOU out, you can go ahead and use the term 'ancient' in reference to Caucasians such as Persians, Greeks, Arabs, and Romans and We, the original People (Black) will also use the same term 'ancient' in reference to Native Africans such as Ethiopians, Kushites, Nubians, and EGYPTIANS. BUT here lies therein the REAL point of contention; the ancient Ethiopians, Kushites, Nubians, and EGYPTIANS pre-dated the Caucasoid 'ruling class' by THOUSANDS AND HUNDREDS OF YEARS!
AGAIN We have a failure to communicate. The psychosis of the European mind IS malignant. IF "you want to see real black people", You better had taken your life on this planet a lot more serious. Black People have the MOST diverse DNA of any so-called race of people on the face of the earth and CAUCASIANS just being the MOST recent mutation. But to make clear MY point before there EVER was a Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and/or Indianoid Race (a play on 'oids') there ALWAYS were Black Peoples with/without straight, wavy, frizzy hair, with/without blue, green, hazel, grey eyes, with/without blond, red, brown hair, with/without straight, flat, hooked noses, and with/without white, yellow, red, brown skin colors. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY before there ever was a 'YOU' or 'YOUR KIND', get it, got it, good!
Robert Aurelius…also let us put this in proper context, Western Europeans ARE the 'Johnny come lately(s)' in terms of being civilized and ruling as a people. The Persians, Hyksos, Assyrians, Babylonians, and even Turkish peoples are 'mixtures' of (2) or more races until being classified as 'fixed' sub races. There NOT white Western Europeans. A good portion of Eastern Europeans aren't even as 'white' as YOU would want them to be. they have significant Asiatic Mongoloid blood traversing through their veins. And let us NOT speak on the Southern Europeans, there IS a southern European classification that Europeans conveniently ignore BECAUSE all of Europe's glory has its genesis in the south of Europe. It's closer to Africa and the Levant. So the ancient Greeks, Romans are Southern Europe and the Byzantines, and Ottoman Turks are actually Asia Minor. Wow, what a history lesson!
We already know. LOL!
jesus christ how stupid are you people.
it's actually been proven that most Pharaohs were in fact Caucasian.
What is wrong with these delusional white supremacist!? Lol even if you don't agree with the "research" presented by so called "afrocentrists" it does not change the fact that these pictures prove that Ancient Egyptians were originally black Africans and that Egypt is in Africa! Do you not see the full lips, broad faces, and dark skin!? Lol Also Google Ancient Egyptian wigs and you Eurocentrists will see dreadlocks and braids! When you look at ancient cultures from Europe and the Middle East, none of these cultures adorn themselves or said they were similar to Egyptians! The most famous Greeks (Plato, Socrates, Aristotle) even said Egyptians were black people who were extremely dark! And lastly, the caucasoid race was born from dark skinned Africans! White skin is thin and is not native to ANY part of Africa! The lighter skin and thinner nasal cavity is direct proof that the caucasoid race is indeed not native to an African desert! The dark skin of black Africans is what is native to the Sahara. And why was the Nubian empire identical to the Egyptian Empire if they both were not indeed black!? We all may live in America but we are not the direct offspring of native Americans! This same concept goes for any Arab, European, or non black person living in modern day Egypt today! It's hard for anyone to believe anything about African culture because racist/envious whites have taught the world to hate us and worship them! And even if you won't acknowledge ancient Egypt as black…. The richest man to have ever lived… Mansa Musa of west Africa…. Was black!! Peace to all!! goodnight!!
Johnny Robinson I like how you responded to our friend Robert Aureliues in a polite and intelligently researched way.
Robert Aurelius Lol this white racist are lame af! They see the proves and continue talking nonesense…
Egypt is in Africa so who needs to be convinced they black
As a fourth-generation storyteller, I find it very difficult to believe that "SCIENCE & ANTHROPOLOGY" will not HONOR THE TRUTH about the BLACK CULTURAL HERITAGE & ESTEEM LEGACY OF AFRICAN AMERICAN (BLACK) PEOPLE ANCESTORS OF EGYPT, AFRICA. BLACK PHAROAHS AND THEIR BEAUTIFUL BLACK QUEENS AND THE PEOPLE OF THE LAND WERE ABSOLUTELY MAGNIFICENT HUMAN BEINGS….THE DNA LIVES ON TODAY…..
what bother me the most is to see how far anthropologist will go to hide thees fact by breaking off the nosse of ourancestors every one of them where there is no dought with flat or broad nose there are all broken the question is how com only those are broke.n not the ones whit pointy nose what where they thinking that we only have flat broad noses or they are trying to pretend that it is them , now we know that they are dum to think so jokers
BLACK AINT GONE GET CREDIT FOR THE PYRAMIDS; that would mean blacks created everything ,math , astrology,science,physics,trig,religion,writing,construction,etc….for a black to get this credit means they are the true gods of the earth
Robert Bellissimo You can site whatever study you want, I've been to the country, I've seeen the art, and time and time again there is african features present in many but not all pharoahs. Dreads, braids, and dark skin are common place in the artwork and painitings. It is prevelant in the musuems throughut the country, I spent 10 days there north and soutn, traveeled the nile for days and saw it sooooo much it was common place. Clearly there was a melting pot in effect, but the nubians were not the only blacks associated with Egypt. And all the discplines were biased heavily with racism well into the 20th century, if you are really being honest. And how is it the nose and mouth features are often worn away but the ears are always intact?
Johnny Robinson More delusions, modern human beings evolved from early humans and no race today is fully related to these early ancestors. A pure black African does not have light eyes or straight hair but keep believing your delusional nonsense if it makes you feel better.
Very interesting knowledge will be back for more reading.
Storytelling with Preshenda, "Black males are confronted with many diversified obstacles in their attempts to acquire valuable knowledge, and to attain academic, career and personal-social success. Our "Magnificent & Extraordinary" achievements in our ancient BlacK History, definitely, is important to help foster positive behavior, and expose black and female students to crucial role models in our history.Developing a sense of cultural and historical pride in the accomplishments of Black men, and women."
1. You are completely wrong about European and Middle Eastern cultures adorning themselves, and they even commonly wore dreadlocks. 2. Ancient Greeks called anyone the slightest bit darker than themselves balck. It was derogatory. 3. There was a lot more to Africa than desert, particularly in the Delta. 4. There was racial mixing, since rulers often demanded or were gifted with brides from outside of Egypt as diplomatic measures.
Linda Camacho Im not completely wrong about anything I stated! Im African and I know plenty of black east Africans that know the truth as I previously stated. To this day black Africans are the only group of people that wear their hair like Ancient Egyptians. Most middle easterners today are just as racist as racist white americans and find it undesirable to wear their straight/wavy hair in such styles. You should have also done your research on the Greek philosphers I stated and read EVERYTHING they said the ancient Egyptians looked like…. Wooly/braided/matted hair, dark skin, full lips. We all know there's more to Africa than desert…. But we both know that if you are not African(black) your ancestors are not native to Africa. The Egyptian, Nubian, and Aksumite kingdoms all come from the Bedarian culture. They are all the SAME people and they sent their royalty to marry between kingdoms. I have yet to read about or hear of any pharoah marrying a European/Arab woman esp when you have Nubian, and Aksumite women who are of the same culture as the Egyptians. Plus most dynasties married distant cousins and relatives to keep their bloodline African. Sure mixing occured, but ALL royal ancient Egyptians were black Africans up until the end of the 26th dynasty (out of 30 dynasties). The 26th dynasty collapsed and fell under rule of the Persians. Thats when you start seeing other languages on papyrus other than heiroglyphics and barely any new monuments! SN:They've already tested the skin of the mummies, which is heavily melinated like most native Africans of that region. Do me a favor and search images of Ahknaten, Queen Tiye, Tut, and his sister Meketaten (18th dynasty) and tell me what you see. Also search Pharoahs Shabaka, Piye, Taharqa, and Kashta (25th dynasty) and tell me what you see. Also go to youtube and watch "Im black and Egyptian, not white!" if you prefer to hear a native tell you everything I just stated. The American school system will never teach black history correctly! Whites/Arabs only want to claim it for themselves even when the evidence proves them wrong! We were the first people!
Ancient Kemet was ruled, by kings and queens; pharaoh is a Greek word.
They just LOVE shooting the noses off. Hmm… Wonder why?
What are you implying? I mean Kemet literally means "The black land", why would they call it that?
Good joke! This must be a sarcastic comment! Please tell me you don't seriously BELIEVE they were white. No offense, but sunscreen wasn't invented back then, so I don't see how whites could survive building in the sun. Also why are there pyramids further down in Africa? Hmmmm.
Kemet literally means "The black land". Also did you forget about the arab invasion? Thats the reason all this mixing came about. Someone sounds small…
Awww, someone needs a pacifier? Robert? Are you blind?
Ignorant fool, it was comon in ancient cultures to deface previous rulers, there are many Roman statues with no noses
Robert Aurelius Due how stupid are you? Were ancient north americans white?
Michael Christopher Switching topics because you got your ass handed to you in a box?
Savaun Jones Because they wanted to make their own pyramids, and they made them awfully. It's not like they were scattered troughout Africa.
Robert Aurelius lmfaoo white people appropriate everyones culture and call it their "own" and get mad when they get called out on the truth hahahahaha you people kill me
I always give one test to caucasians from all over the world: pronounce any original pharaoh name, not the one transformed in greek and see how that work. Only africans can pull that off. There is a reason for that it's their language, culture. It's crazy how for white people, blacks were nowhere in ancient times, they were not in europe, not in asia, not in america, not even in Africa or maybe only a tiny little corner of africa( that is east and central); south africa, they almost stole that country without even a blink and north africa they successfully stole it. Now they want us to buy the lies. Not in this life
Beautiful is all I can say
Vedad Vedo Fazlić It's not changing topics it's a fair point. North Americans are predominately white today. Does that mean it was that way a thousand years ago? Nope. Same with Egypt. it was likely a mix of arabian and africans for the most part
Venus Asherah Sweet!
Robert Aurelius You're entitled to freedom of speech and to own your reinterpretation of truth and reality but you can't replace either with the "junk" that you overloaded this thread with. I've seen quite a bit of revisionist interpreted history but this is new to me. Different "authors" but same lies and misinterpretations.
The misinformation that you posted is crushed by the African representatives clearly from the era's that your sources insist that there was no Afrian representation.
Pre-Dynasitic Kemet was peopled by "sub-saharan" Africans that migrated into the area of Nabta Playa and gave birth to pre-dynastic egypt and later founded the first dynasty. See the work of Bruce Williams, University of Chicago for that.
Africans were the bookends in the founding and fall of ancient Kement and represent all of the dyanistic periods from 1st to last. The tolmec era was a period during which even the white (if this is actually the case) tolmecs attempted to emulate African systems (philisophical, religious, spiritual, etc.)
Argue if you like but 100% of your points may be be dismissed with ease as the false representations that they are with readily available and substantial evidence.
Linda Camacho This is not evidence of a source for a "racially" diverse population and I'll doubt that there was a huge demand for non-black women. Please provide a source for the aestethic similarities of other coultures that were "not" directly influenced by Africans.
4. There was racial mixing, since rulers often demanded or were gifted with brides from outside of Egypt as diplomatic measures.
Yes in "March of the Titans" but not it reality. There never was a Nazi or Europan Egypt.
Not bad Trace Dixon.
Derek Jackson who said anything about a Nazi or European Egypt, you do realize there are many "caucasion" people indiginous to the middle east and afrika right? Algeria being a North Afrikan nation of all "whites" south Egpyt was more black and North Egpyt was a HUGE mix of colors and nationalities. Keep on living the dream that i'm wrong.
Robert Aurelius Most Roman and Greek statutes still have their noses
Robert Aurelius Are you suggesting we believe the mumbo jumbo you posted and not our LYING EYES? Its right in front of you on this page, get a brain and then use it! Maybe you just need glasses.
Great Post
Robert Aurelius Can't believe you posted info from the racist blog of Mathilda. She tells you right up front she's a racist. How stupid of you and her!
Robert Aurelius Not nearly as many as Egyptians statues that have been mutilated. Maybe a few but not the majority.
Robert Aurelius You and your reports are full of it!
Robert Aurelius Do you suggest we believe you and your reports and not our lying eyes that tell us these are black people? Sorry to burst your bubble……but YOU ARE NOT ALL OF THAT!
Eric Trzaska There are not indiginous Caucasians in Africa. There is proof unearthed from the Sahara desert that show the Sahara was once lush and green and inhabited by black people. Google ancient rock art of the Sahara or more specifically Algeria.
Beverly Coleman right, yet we all came from africa but there are no whites fom africa and i guess all the middle eastern looking modern egyptians came from out of thin air as well right, they just took over egyot when all the blacks fantastically dissapeared.. wtf is wrong with you blind ppl.