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  1. I actually agree with this and the proof is there for all to see how influential the arabs are and were in African if you look at how many Muslim influenced countries in Africa

  2. The issue of slavery is worsening now in most parts of the world. African slavery, Arab slavery, European slavery, Chinese slavery, Indian slavery all is slavery. What the world needs now is how yo end this inhuman menace in whatever form it rears it's ugly head. Peace and love to all men.

  3. Kevin M. Ali says:

    The name “Arab” is a linguistic nomenclature, which only identifies the linguistic and regional culture (not the race, the Europeans introduced the practice of racism and then erased the African genealogy and taught the world to use race as the definition of human identity and classification). Before the European’s crossed the Mediterranean sea and came upon the African tribes and people named themselves with cultural and geographic nomenclature, but the Arab in particular is so named after their language, there is absolutely no reference to their ethnicity. In fact they are just like the Hebrews, both the Hebrew and the Arab themselves are ethnically African.

  4. Shawn Mc says:

    hes wrong when he say its started in concurrent with the european slaves trade.

    the arab slave trade started hundreds of years prior to the european trade.
    prior to the european slave trade slavery was already and institution in africa practiced now by different tribes.

  5. Shawn Mc says:

    whats your definition of black?

  6. All forms of slavery in the world who enslaved people first? The black African. The way you train your child that's how he will grow up to be. Dr. John Henrik Clarke

  7. Kevin M. Ali says:

    a color in the crayon box While historical truth and accuracy is a vital and necessary ingredient of civilization, in which its best attributes offer guidance to humanity to navigate through the perils of human identity crisis, the Prophet Muhammad (salla lahu alayhi wa’ale hi Wasallam) addressed the negative issues inherent to tribalism and traditionalism ( African Tribalism, Afrocentrism, Nationalism) in his last sermon by stating that “Allah has relieved you from the burden of ignorance with its pride in the fathers and the ancestors. You are all from Adam, and Adam is from dust. There is no difference between an Arab and a non-Arab, nor between a black man and a red man except in piety". A very appealing message to the African American decedent of slaves and ex-slaves

  8. Jay Carle says:

    He said that the Arab slave traders were east Africans… That's Black on Black.

  9. Kevin M. Ali says:

    The best examples are rendered in the Diouf (1998) Singleton, (2002) and Ahari’s (n.d.) research that provide the most current chronicle of Muslims identities associated with African Slaves. Much of their research chronicles have been collected from other well-known research historians and well informed journalist of slavery and the Atlantic slave trade. The documented evidences collected from case studies and recent additions to history Books, divide the history of Islam in America into five eras: before 1800, 180-1890, 1890-1910, 1910-1950, and 1950-present

  10. have to be careful with information taken from our staunch black Christian friends. they're programmed to lie and falsify information to keep their thrust upon Christian faith , looking innocent.hence the bad effects of slavery was as a result of the treatment of the slaves by their masters which we found to be horrible by white Christian slave masters and we're still faced with systematic enslavement by those same white supremacist mindsets /Christians with those like minded used to be house negros that willing to do almost anything to make his religion innocent.

  11. Sean McCants says:

    Interrogative? Is What Dr. John Henrik Clarke Is Saying True About The Arabs’ Involvement With The European Slave Trade? Why did they title this article in this fashion — as if it were not true.

  12. Okay, enough with the history lesson of the word arab. How about dealing with the issue, did those people (let's just call them Arabs for the sake of argument) do what Dr. Clake suggests or naw?

  13. Furthermore, Muhammad was a pedophile, who plagerized African knowledge, just as the christians did. How is pride in your father and ancestors a burden? That's all done to control you and keep you away from your culture. Makes no sense. But I digress, you think "Allah" just sat there and watched us build our own heritage,etc. Just to send his usurping "prophet " to destroy it and bring you under his culture.
    you fools still ain't awake, from one slave master to the other.
    pray ten times a day if you want, Muhammad's god died with him.

  14. Just wondering what black christians have to do with this video

  15. And Europeans were enslaving their own initially, that's white on white.
    your point?

  16. And Europeans were enslaving their own initially, that's white on white.
    your point?

  17. Ummm, that's not what he said bro, he said it ran concurrent wit the european/atantric slave trade, and it BEGAN almost at the same time (we know who was first ), which is why he said it may be worse than the European one. Discernment bro, discernment

  18. What's the point of memotioning who owned the first slaves?
    Whites were the first slaves of whites as well.
    this is true for all people.
    what does that have to do with the topic at hand?

    That's like saying " well black on black crime exists", as if it's only true for black people. Where are all the references from African folks, all I see is arab and euro parrots, smh

  19. Kevin M. Ali says:

    No, the Slovic's introduced the word slave into the vocabulary the rest of the world there never was even a word for slave.Every Slavic ethnicity has emigrated to other parts of the world. …. sklábos "slave. The Byzantine term Sklavinoi was loaned into Arabic as Saqaliba صقالبة .Most contemporary African-centered scholars, such as Cheikh Anta Diop, Ivan Van Sertima, Sylviane A. Diouf, John Henrik Clarke, Owen Alik Shahadah, and Anthony Browder postulate that White supremacy manifests in the social, economic, political, and cultural history of European expansion. The development of the New World and the origin of racism is considered the invention of the “Ethnocentric European Other” which began the process of exploiting others with the image of a white “God” on the cross exported for global domination and rule over black Africa, and Africans while forcing them to build their colonies and territories to profit the United Kingdom’s monarchy in the churches and governments.

  20. Kevin M. Ali says:

    Sumbahdi Seddit The problem with the scholarly study of Islam is the narrow minded deconstructive analysis and the apologetic motivated by the ignorance and hostility against Islam since 13th century. Hence, we must consider the effects and influences of the dogma of slavery, colonialism, and Christianity in all its guises conquered the earth by telling everybody everywhere they could be the same as white people if they get in line with their beliefs they will benefit with the same cultural opportunities, the ones white Christian slave masters and colonialist have to offer.

  21. Kevin M. Ali says:

    In Mecca, before accepting Islam, Bilal was once the slave “property” of Umayyah bin who when Bilal embraced Islam as a slave used to torture him severely. Dr. Jamal Badawi illustrates the well-known story of Abu Bakr, one of the companions of the Prophet, passing by while Bilal was being tortured. Abu Bakr was appealing to Bilal’s master to have compassion on him. The master refused and finally told Abu Bakr that if he wanted he could buy Bilal. Abu Bakr used his own funds to buy Bilal and set him free. Bilal became one of the closest companions of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) (Badawi, 2010).
    During the moral atmosphere of Arabia in general, and of Makkah in particular known in Islam as “jahiliyyah” (Islamic concept of "ignorance of divine guidance) Badawi illuminates the foremost challenge the Muslims confronted establishing “Islam” was the difficult status of wide spread and inhuman slavery that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) 1400 years ago challenged providing emancipation on three planes: physical, psychological and ihsan (goodness, doing good, spiritual excellence).
    The solutions Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) brought came from Allah did not only required physical emancipation but it also required the psychological and human emancipation. According to Badawi required changing people themselves, the psychology of both the salves and their enslavers in order to bring them back to the original concept of human equality and brotherhood. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) taught the Muslims that Allah emphasized in Qur’an the equality of all humans and that there is no superiority or inferiority on the basis of ethnic, nationalistic or any other ground, that the only criterion that people are differentiated by are piety and good deeds.
    Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) brought an end to “jahiliyyah” by establishing Islam in the lives of Muslims and society, which changed the total nature of the institution from slavery to more of a domestic servant in preparation to totally remove it from existence. There was one Hadith that said “Your servants (he did not say slaves) are your brothers.” So it was not only changed from a slave in Jahilyyah which regarded a “slave” as a thing changed to a servant, no, in Islam it was even changed from a servant to a brother (Badawi, 2010).

  22. Kevin M. Ali sorry bro but, using that logic would mean this: the germanic/indo-europeans introduced the word "God" into the world's vobulary. therefore there was no such thing beforehand. (yes, thats how silly your statement was) You are aware that the arabs we speak of are WHITE right? One tribe split into two ( as you stated, those people now known as arab are the same as the modern jew and or hebrew)
    They BOTH lied in scripture and in practice and still do.
    No such people as adam and eve spawned mankind, thats a fairytale for people who dont think about their beliefs. Enough with the etymology, the only thing the arabs did different was remove god's material form. you are defending the same system with a different face on it.

  23. Kevin M. Ali says:

    The Fitrah of Allah and Al-Aqeedah in Allah

  24. Kevin M. Ali says:

    You are partially right, but the very category of "race"–denoting primarily skin color–was first employed as a means of classifying human bodies by Francois Bernier, a French physician, in 1684. The first authoritative racial division of humankind is found in the influential Natural System (1735) of the preeminent naturalist of the 18th century, Caroluc Linnaeus. Both of these instances reveal European racist practices at the level of intellectual codificaton since both degrade and devalue non-Europeans. Racist folktales, mythologies, legends, and stories that function in the everyday life of common people predate the 17th and 18th centuries. For example, Christian anti-Semitism and Euro-Christian antiblackism were rampant throughout the Middle Ages. These false divisions of humankind were carried over to colonized Latin America where anti-Indian racism became a fundamental pillar of colonial society and influenced later mestizo national development. Thus racism is as much a product of the interaction of cultural ways of life as it is of modern capitalism. A more adequate conception of racism should reflect this twofold context of cultural and economic realities in which racism has flourished.

  25. Kevin M. Ali I know islamic history very well, spare me the stories. How about deal with the issues at hand?
    I know Abu bakr is the "prophet" s friend who allowed him to marry his child daughter ( i know, you think that was okay). Problem with you brothers being programmed is, you have no sense of how to engage people. You took no time to find out what i already know, and you rattle off info you assume i never came across, as if its a sign of intellect,etc. You talkin about muhammad challenging slavery 1400 years ago, while the arabs are STILL involved, despite their islamic beliefs. Didnt Elijah Muhammad see this in 1959, years before malcom went?

    WHY does this black man exist in this condition, if what you say is true?

    "Sheik Adil IS BLACK, and the son of a poor immigrant from the Persian Gulf. Leading prayers at the Grand Mosque is an extraordinary honor, usually reserved for PURE-BLOODED ARABS from the Saudi heartland."
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/11/world/middleeast/11saudi.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

    and THIS is whats known as slavery apologetics and semantics ; "Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) brought an end to “jahiliyyah” by establishing Islam in the lives of Muslims and society, which changed the total nature of the institution from slavery to more of a domestic servant in preparation to totally remove it from existence."

    You think Allah couldve showed him how to abolish slavery PERIOD, if he god he dont need gradual steps and or spin-game, and if he god, he damn sure shouldve told muhammad that sex and or marriage wit a child was wrong.
    I dont care what muhammad thought or those of his time, this god should have known it was wrong and filthy. But please continue, Minds that dont want to be awakened will naturally stay sleep.

    Peace be upon you

  26. Kevin M. Ali "by telling everybody everywhere they could be the same as white people if they get in line with their beliefs they will benefit with the same cultural opportunities, the ones white Christian slave masters and colonialist have to offer.
    "
    TRUE, however i can also say "by telling everybody everywhere they could be the same as arab people if they get in line with their beliefs they will benefit with the same cultural opportunities, the ones arab slave masters and colonialist have to offer."
    "

    OTH are equallt guilty but somehow you only see it for one side… i wonder why

  27. Kevin M. Ali The problem with muslim apologists is, they see nothing wrong with men in their 50's, marrying girls under ten years old, UNLESS the man in question isnt said to be a "prophet"… Hostility towards islam has zero to do with dealing with facts.
    Do you deny Muhammad was a pedophile?
    I have the hadiths right here, since you adhere to them so much..
    And, btw, In order for islam to take over the world as a belief system, guess what that is? COLONIALISM

  28. Kevin M. Ali says:

    Poor Sumbahdi Seddit, this is the claim and the propaganda of the enemies of Islam, do you use the term pedophile to insult the Muslims, or to show your level of ignorance ? On the marriage of our beloved Prophet Muhammad to Ayesha (ra)
    http://youtu.be/ZmH8IgHnY-A

  29. Kevin M. Ali says:

    Sumbahdi Seddit Show the evidence! Since there is all too much evidence of western civilization’s hegemony, prejudice and animosity toward Africans, Arabs, Asians, and Islam it is certainly the conundrum why the Old Testament Bible theology is so conveniently juxtaposed by the white supremacist Biblical Hermeneutics, and that of the teachings of Christianity. It gives the impression white supremacy must have been sustained by the white supremacist and their worshiping polytheism in the form of an icon of a white man as god on the cross (Christian polytheism worship of or belief in multiple deities such as the trinity doctrine or the false image of Jesus portrayed as god)

  30. Kevin M. Ali says:

    Sumbahdi Seddit we also know that the historical cultural trauma of slavery was established by a justification authored by Christian theology and Evangelism which gave spiritual momentum to the Ethnocentric European objective for global domination. That is to say that much of the relevant data is obscured by the imperceptible nature of individual verses institutional Christian racism, vs/and secular theology racism. While both are equally the same in oneness of purpose as well as religious constituents are responsible for sustaining and sanctioning slavery as a purely utilitarian scheme established by the ancient Roman concept of life without any transcendental considerations (Asad, 1934). Thus Christian and secular theology coexist in capitalism in such a way that permits the spiritual objectives to become materialistic and enables the individuals (like you) and institutions to turn a blind eye and to unwitnessed the oppression of slavery and white supremacy

  31. To fully understand the concept of the evolution of slavery and Arab involvement, we need to decipher slave related inscriptions on ancient Egyptian verses. Arabian enslavement of black Africans was prior to European slave trade. Arabians traded black Africans with Greece and Rome.

  32. Kevin M. Ali says:

    Surat Luqmān (Luqman), Ayah: 25, “And if you (O Muhammad SAW) ask them: "Who has created the heavens and the earth," they will certainly say: "Allah.” Say: "All the praises and thanks be to Allah!" But most of them know not" (Noble Quran).

  33. I was previledge to hear Dr. Clark expound these horrific tales about the African slave trade in college, this knowledge of the Arabs involvement in our holocaust, and coupled with my waking knowledge of these same countries today I am convinced that they hold one of the special positions of humans being that cannot be trusted making them one arm of the trilateral evils that is holding the world in constant turmoil, because they have not outgrown the infantile neanderthal syndrome.

  34. Did Arabs participate in the enslavement of African people? YES! Did they use the religion of Islam to justify such wickedness? YES! Would Muhammad endorse such wickedness? HELL NO! So, if we're going to tell the story, tell the WHOLE story. Everyone had his hand in the cookie jar, including Arabs and so-called Jews.

  35. Diallo Sekou says:

    Kevin M. Ali tell it to the arabs.

  36. It looks like everyone was beating our ancestors down no wonder we can't get up….. ''''''It hurts me to hear this''''''.

  37. Sumbahdi Seddit Yes there IS slavery in Africa and their was slavery by ARABS of Africans THERE IS SLAVERY RIGHT HERE in the U.S. in prisons and on the streets with prositutes, If we want to make the Arab the equal of white supremacy then that is too much. Why? It is because they currently are a bunch of "mixed" (black/indian/white) people. The current group of Arabs are a result white people being allowed to mix within our ancient societies (in a nut shell). When white people (Assyrian) Tamahu first came south in great mass at least 3300 years ago all of those middle eastern peoples were very melinated (Black/Indian) peoples The white people hated us for keeping them locked up in the Caucasus mountains for so long as they killed and conquered in the middle eastern areas they killed men raped women the children continued much of that hate of the Black or original peoples. Sassanian and Zoroastrianism are Aryan (white )religions that were taken over with the advent of Islam on the areas (which still practiced slavery) but they still retain some of the cultural practices and attitudes of their Aryan mixture.

  38. This thing with the ARABS and AFRICANS is a very very ancient thing and it really takes research from people able to effectively examine the source languages. it is absolutely insane to view it from the perspective that we have from our situation right here 400 years in AMerica. My guess is that if you look at the situation in Darfur you see in modern time something like the fights black people had with each other before white people came on scene.

  39. Shawn Mc do you know what started the slave trade of Arabia in Africa?

  40. Sumbahdi Seddit "BOTH are equally guilty" can John Henrike Clarke read Arabic? can he read the original histories or does he have to rely only on someone to translate 1st then make his decision? the ARAB SLAVE TRADE WAS WELL BEFORE the thing that brought us over here. they are not equal though in order for them to be equal you got to show me some more historical facts, (reading prevention, people = property, burning at stakes) Am I defending Arab slave traders HELL no but you got to understand that the enemy of the planet is the white supremacist and he has no equal in evil none.

  41. AMERICAN PRISON SLAVERY

  42. Kevin M. Ali says:

    I am in total agreement with Michael Akeiba Fard suggestion that new scholarship is needed to chronicle this era by studying both the obvious and the obscure.

  43. And what if you look at the situation in europe/Britain & Russia, etc. You will see modern times white people fighting with each other as well.
    Just as folks love to yell, " oh well Africans enslaved each otber" as it europeans, etc. didn't do the same to each other.
    That's a HUMAN issue, but we been trained to dismiss the disfunction in other cultures and see our own as some sort of innate savagery or unique condition. Talking about what happened "before white people…."
    Is a smokescreen. It's irrelevant. It reinforces the idea that ancient times was any different than modern. It wasn't thousands of years ago, when. Adolphus hitler rounded up millions of his own people to be gassed and shot, nor was it too long ago when white people were buying and selling each other, until they came across a darker source of property.
    Besides, we all know who the original Arabs were anyway,
    And they already knew their deity, long before the invaders came in with their mystery god and rituals.
    Niggas can't say nadda to me about ADAM, until they can speak on ATUM.

  44. Indeed. They also, just as every forms of slavery started, began with their own people. Typically in war,etc. But when certain folks got the idea of "race" and "class" the phenomenon became a system.
    Certain people were to be enslaved, certain were not.
    Then we have people today who think this is a 400 year old problem, when they will even acknowledge Muhammad (the pedophile from the tribe of Quresh, not elijah) was said to abolish slavery 1400 years ago, which does at east confirm Arabs had a thousand year start on europe.
    Salute bro, you definite hitting em over the head!!!!

  45. William Eaton says:

    Uneducated uninformed ignorant revisionist afrocentric idiocy at it's finest. No neither the Arabs or Hebrews were black but Caucasian Semitic peoples. As were the ancient Egyptian pharaohs and carthagians. Cromagnon migrated into Africa breeding with the various preexisting species of hominid 28-32 k ago

  46. Muhammad endorsed pedophilia, do you deny this?
    If "Allah" is omniscient, and he knew in advance about muhammad and Aisha, why didn't Allah correct his prophet?
    That's a single example of him being morally corrupt.

    As far as muhammad on slavery, let's check the hadiths

    "There came a slave and pledged allegiance to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) on migration; he (the Holy Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man) (Sahih Muslim 3901).

    So, muhammad traded two of his own black slaves for another?
    That's Emancipation to you ?

    How could Muhammad disapprove of a practice he was himself practicing???

    Do you need more proof?
    Shall I pull up Sahib Al Bulgari for further evidence?

    Why, if he was righteous, would he even still own any slaves?
    It's nothing pious about freeing a slave because he becomes muslim, how about you free every slave you have the power to, because they are human?

    The Prophet sent for a woman from the emigrants and she had a slave who was a carpenter. The Prophet said to her "Order your slave to prepare the wood (pieces) for the pulpit." So, she ordered her slave who went and cut the wood from the tamarisk and prepared the pulpit, for the Prophet. When he finished the pulpit, the woman informed the Prophet that it had been finished. The Prophet asked her to send that pulpit to him, so they brought it. The Prophet lifted it and placed it at the place in which you see now. (Bukari 47:743)"

    Wait, isn't this Abdullah Muhammad the pedophile prophet, self proclaimed (under advice from his catholic church buddy btw), also in the hadiths, using one of his companion's SLAVES to build for him?

    Sounds to me like that HELL NO, u claimed, is actually a HELL YES

    And let me guess you're gonna deny he was a pedophile too lol

    I wonder, if I sleep with or marry a 6 year old in my FIFTIES, what would I be, if not a pedophile. ..

  47. William Eaton says:

    Uneducated uninformed ignorant revisionist afrocentric idiocy at it's finest. Did you fail basic physical anthropology and genetics? Both the Arabs and Hebrews are Caucasian of Semitic stock. As were the ancient Egyptian pharaohs and carthagians. Cromagnon migrated into Africa breeding with the various preexisting species of hominid 28-32 k ago

  48. Moha Gadim says:

    i have to allow me to say tthis what are you saying about the arabs was not true they know and identify themselve and africans on racial terms ii speak arabic and i know for fact that arabs are racist look at the word abd and the color implications of it

  49. Moha Gadim says:

    Kevin M. Ali i've been with arabs and i know arabic culture very well and i have to say this arabs are highly racist not only to abds'black people name which is a deragetory means literally slave' but arabs are racist to all none arabic popuation of the whole earth you know when you here acommentator in a a game like football saying in africa cup of nations or even in the olympics he only reason sided with this or that person is because is that person is an arab look at موطاا مالك also look at some hadith on muslim and albukhary وتاريخ الطبرى صحح مسلم والبخارىhistory of altabary none edited versions in arabic and you read thousan night and night الف ليلة وليلة read about mutanabi المتنئ and haroun alikhshidi and read about antar ibn shadadعنتر ان شداد to understand the meaning and the implications of being black in arabic cuture

  50. William Eaton says:

    Uneducated uninformed ignorant revisionist afrocentric idiocy at it's finest. Did you fail basic physical anthropology and genetics and history? Both Arabs and Hebrews are Caucasian of Semitic stock as were the Carthagians and ancient Egyptian pharaohs

  51. Moha Gadim says:

    you know what is the Arabic nomenclature to the peanutbutter's peanuts ,, ask one of your lebanese , syrian or may be palestenian friends.
    it's literal name is peanut of the slaves and ' the ' goes to the african slaves in a literal sense 'fustuk al abeed'فستق العبيد.
    now arabs call it politly 'peanuts of the sudanese' sudanese means the blacks don't fool your self hisory can't bare reading it ideologically you cant either glorify neiher demonize people also you can't worship arabs based on religeous ground and dong crazy verbal stunts on their behalf.
    as far as it goes as long as it goes as a black person you are abd or slave even there are mosque named mosque of al abeed جامع العييد.

  52. Kevin M. Ali says:

    A large part of western generated research ia absent the African point of view, for example Dr. Clarks is stating that Moroccans invaded Africa, first Morocco is African and as well according to Cheik Anta Diop, “in 1544, Sultan Muhammad al-Mahdi, the founder of Sa’did power in Morocco, demanded the ruler of Songhay, Askia Ishaq I, to give him the mines. Askia Ishaq naturally refused to do it, and a war broke out. The Moroccans sent an army to occupy Taghaza, but the army was destroyed in the desert. As response to this, a Songhay army consisting of Tuaregs, attacked northwards and sacked the southern parts of Morocco, forcing Sultan Muhammad to flee from Marrakesh. Similarly, the rulers of Bornu, lying around Lake Chad, were able to expand their political dominance deep into Fezzan, occupying the oases until the 16th century.”.

  53. Kevin M. Ali says:

    We are still at the earliest stages of unraveling the truth out from underneath the historical lies of the orientalist. These values are attributed to the greed and capitalism of the monarchs, and the cooperation of the Orientalist and Church institutions who designed the propaganda, was only done to satisfy the monarchs who wanted to build the perception of the ‘non-European other’ to inspire conquest for capital gain. “With very few exceptions, even the most eminent of European orientalists have been guilty of an unscientific partiality in their writings on Islam” and Africans(Muhammad Asad, 1934)

  54. Nana Koko Sekye says:

    Brother I hear you but they not listening. The racial codification of history was a serious poison placed on the study of history. It will take a lot for many to clearly see the truth. In time my brother, thank you for this post.

  55. Dr. Danquah did a great research in ancient Egyptian art. From this work we see the Hyksos who took civilization to Crete being slaves in Egypt. Before they overthrew the 17th dynasty and were later driven out of Egypt by the Nubian king of upper Egypt. From this development we see. Slavery started in Africa, before the Arabs took over the selling of Africans to Arabia, and Rome as gladiators. Dr. John Henrik Clarke is true. The Arabian slave merchants were more inhuman to Africans than Europeans.

  56. Now we should be concerned on how to end modern day slavery that's worse than an epidemic.

  57. *sahih al bukhari*

  58. What does any of this have to do with the fact that muhammad was a pedophile, slave-trader & womanizer? You keep avoiding these things and ranting about the church and what they did. The fact that the church is bloody and dirty, doesn't make the mosque clean. They are both wicked, shame you can't even see or admit it. Smh

  59. I will say this. I'm not familiar with Muhammad engaging in such vile acts. If he did, then he is outside the tenets of his faith. I'm saying that everyone was at fault in the trafficking of our people. In fact, the Arabs had a few hundred years on the Christians and Jews in trafficking African people. Chancellor Williams THE DESTRUCTION OF BLACK CIVILIZATION describes how the Arabs went along the east coast of Africa. Yet, they never conquered the Kushites (Ethiopian) and had to leave it alone.

    To me, the REAL enemies of Islam are those who use it as a means of subjugation and oppression instead of liberation and upliftment.

  60. I will say this. I'm not familiar with Muhammad engaging in such vile acts. If he did, then he is outside the tenets of his faith. I'm saying that everyone was at fault in the trafficking of our people. In fact, the Arabs had a few hundred years on the Christians and Jews in trafficking African people. Chancellor Williams THE DESTRUCTION OF BLACK CIVILIZATION describes how the Arabs went along the east coast of Africa. Yet, they never conquered the Kushites (Ethiopian) and had to leave it alone.

    To me, the REAL enemies of Islam are those who use it as a means of subjugation and oppression instead of liberation and upliftment.

  61. Sumbahdi Seddit just looking at your comments its seems you view history from vantage of high emotion and judge others based on YOUR IDEAS OF RIGHT AND WRONG. While your idea may be practical and good in today's climate it would not bring and sustain power which is the thing that ISLAM brought to Africa and that is why much of the preserved history in Africa and of African by AFRICAN peoples is preserved In Arabic. For you to assume that we don't see what you are trying to describe is shortsighted on YOUR part. WE SEE WHAT YOU SAY AND SEE PAST IT. you don't see past a conclusion you are comfortable with this is a problem. THERE is more evidence to consider but you don't want to see that part because you would have to change your ideas. In order to use the word "pedophile" accurately there are some things you must prove. Here is a definition: (Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children, generally age 11 years or younger.[1][2] As a medical diagnosis, specific criteria for the disorder extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.[1] A person who is diagnosed with pedophilia must be at least 16 years of age; adolescents must be at least five years older than the prepubescent child for the attraction to be diagnosed as pedophilia.) keep in mind this is a definition based on current world view. Islam is not a wicked religion it has a high moral standard. Just like the Gospel of Jesus and the teachings of the Israelite prophets.

  62. Michael Akeiba Fard
    "just looking at your comments its seems you view history from vantage of high emotion and judge others based on YOUR IDEAS OF RIGHT AND WRONG.

    ( Umm no bro, thats NOT the case, but please, continue your conclusion based on your false assumption, rather than ask questions.
    Im not emotional at all concerning this subject, just simply rational rather than willfully ignorant )

    "While your idea may be practical and good in today's climate it would not bring and sustain power which is the thing that ISLAM brought to Africa and that is why much of the preserved history in Africa and of African by AFRICAN peoples is preserved In Arabic. "

    (So, You are claiming being rightepus wouldnt have worked back then?
    Wickedness was neccessary, i got you)

    For you to assume that we don't see what you are trying to describe is shortsighted on YOUR part. WE SEE WHAT YOU SAY AND SEE PAST IT.

    (No bro, i didnt say or imply yall dont see it, i precisely state that yall look past it, which is NOT a righteous or wise thing to do, this is WHy i asked if the brother denied such, i never stated what you claimed so…..)

    you don't see past a conclusion you are comfortable with this is a problem.

    ( Said by a guy who cant see past MY conclusion about muhammad, for example… doesnt that make you a hypocrite?)

    THERE is more evidence to consider but you don't want to see that part because you would have to change your ideas.

    (Which is WHAT? i dont bend to empty claims, WHAT is this more evidence you charge me with lacking? whats next, you gone tell me the story of how muhammad traded two of his black slaves in exchange for Bilal? You folks have no clue who or what you adhere to)

    "In order to use the word "pedophile" accurately there are some things you must prove. Here is a definition: (Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children, generally age 11 years or younger.[1][2] As a medical diagnosis, specific criteria for the disorder extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.[1] A person who is diagnosed with pedophilia must be at least 16 years of age; adolescents must be at least five years older than the prepubescent child for the attraction to be diagnosed as pedophilia.) keep in mind this is a definition based on CURRENT WORLD VIEW. "

    (Smh, bro, did you not read when i already spoke on this?
    Lets use logic here, YOU are asserting that basically the arabs and people of muhammads time didnt know better. This is where the problem comes in: Muhammad is supposed to be ALLAH's prophet (1) ALLAH is supposed to be all-knowing aka omniscient (2) so, you are telling me that ALLAH HIMSELF didnt know any better? he couldnt send at least one surah to jabril stating that men and lil girls arent allowed to do such things? Really? I thought God and his wisdom is supposed to be eternal… I have heard you r sorry ecxuse for a argument a thousand times, its funnier everytime i hear it. Some god you got there…
    .Your own info you provided just above supports the claim of muhammad being just that, a pedophile )

    Islam is not a wicked religion it has a high moral standard. Just like the Gospel of Jesus and the teachings of the Israelite prophets.

    (Yes, it IS a wicked religion, all of them are, but yall aint ready for that KNOWLEDGE yet, too comfortable with BELIEF)

    Next time bro, earn to ask questions and find out somebody's wealth of knowledge before you go sending them info they have long already known and disproved to be false

  63. Kevin M. Ali " we also know that the historical cultural trauma of slavery was established by a justification authored by Christian theology and Evangelism which gave spiritual momentum to the Ethnocentric European objective for global domination.

    ( WHAT does that being true, have to do with the ARABS doing it a thousand years before the church joined in????)

    That is to say that much of the relevant data is obscured by the imperceptible nature of individual verses institutional Christian racism, vs/and secular theology racism.

    ( WHAT is "secular" theology????????)

    While both are equally the same in oneness of purpose as well as religious constituents are responsible for sustaining and sanctioning slavery as a purely utilitarian scheme established by the ancient Roman concept of life without any transcendental considerations (Asad, 1934). Thus Christian and secular theology coexist in capitalism in such a way that permits the spiritual objectives to become materialistic and enables the individuals (like you) and institutions to turn a blind eye and to unwitnessed the oppression of slavery and white supremacy"

    Again, WHAT does this have to do with my point?
    IF im saying both are guilty, what is the lesson is playing one against the other before me? I dont acknowledge either one.
    STIll you say show you evidence, evidence of WHAT?
    You are aware that i already know what ur sayong about the chirch and christianity right? im just curious to how the islamic world has done the very same thing, but you keep dodging that part of the truth

  64. Michael Akeiba Fard Please tell us what started it, so you can justify the arabs bloody hands, im waiting 😉

  65. Michael Akeiba Fard " "BOTH are equally guilty" can John Henrike Clarke read Arabic?

    (WHAT does Dr. Clarke reading arabic, have to do with the evil within the foundation of the islamic world????)

    can he read the original histories or does he have to rely only on someone to translate 1st then make his decision? the ARAB SLAVE TRADE WAS WELL BEFORE the thing that brought us over here.

    (Thanx for telling me what i been telling everybody else on here about the arab slave trade, now, what purpose is it for? You DO know Dr.Clarke said this as well and he also said "if he had to choose between the two, he'd pick islam over christianity"??)

    they are not equal though in order for them to be equal you got to show me some more historical facts, (reading prevention, people = property, burning at stakes) Am I defending Arab slave traders HELL no but you got to understand that the enemy of the planet is the white supremacist and he has no equal in evil none."

    (Ask yourself bro, is the arab technically a white man or naw? Last time i checked they were one and the same, half the family rules the east, the other, rules the west

    or as the bible would say (smile) :

    "I will sell your sons and daughters to the people of JUDAH, and they will sell them to the people of ARABIA, a nation far away. I, the LORD, have spoken!"

    SOUNDS LIKE THEY WERE IN CAHOOTS, to me 😉

  66. oh and maybe not stake burning but, do me a favor, look up MANSUR AL HALLAH, and see how he was treated for believing different, since you brought that up

  67. Shawn Mc says:

    Michael Akeiba Fard the arabs always acquired slaves from africa just like other nations be it raid, trade or sale, the majority came from the the georgians,circassians and related caucasian peoples.
    after the russian conquest of the caucasus in the early years of the 19th century, russian annexation of crimea in 1783 and the extinction of tarter independence the ottomans did not have their sources of white slaves so they turned more and more to africa.
    in the course of the 19th century came to provide the overwhelming majority of slaves used in muslim countries
    german report published in 1860 stated the black slaves at that time were recruited by mainly raiding and kidnapping from Sennaar,Kordofan,Darfur,Nubia and other places in inner africa.

  68. Kevin M. Ali says:

    You Sumbahdi Seddit do not have to keep proving that you are ignorant. You should know that ·“Every action that does not begin with God’s remembrance is cut off (abtar). I am one of the servants of Allah, and to answer your slander I recite:Surat al-Kawthar In The Name of Allah, The Most Beneficent, The Most Merciful",

    Surat al-Kawthar “Indeed we have granted you the Kawthar (river in heaven). So pray to your Lord and sacrifice. Indeed, your enemy is the one cut off” (Qur’an, 108).

    Every time that any Muslims among the Muslims who are the majority in 49 countries, make up 23% of the world's population around 1.6 billion recites Surat al-Kawthar Allah increases the punishment for those who hate Muhammad (PBUH)

    The Last Verse

    “Indeed, your enemy is the one cut off” (Qur’an, 108:3)

    The word enemy is from the word “Shan’i” which literally means one who hates. It is found elsewhere in the Qur’an (5:2). It is used as a possessive here to show that anyone who hates the Prophet ﷺ will be cut off from all blessings and good in this life and the next. in the Arabic, is “He” – called Damir al-Fasul in Arabic. Thus, perhaps a better translation would be, “Indeed, your hater, (he) is cut off”. The presence of that pronoun “he” also adds to the meaning, “Indeed, your hater, (he) is cut off (not you).”

  69. Sumbahdi Seddit thank you for correcting my false assumption of your emotional status regarding this issue I won't make that assumption again. (So, You are claiming being rightepus wouldnt have worked back then?
    Wickedness was neccessary, i got you) . Lots of sarcasm there and that's why I assumed "high emotion" or contempt. I have to ask you what is the standard that you use to gauge righteous and unrighteous behavior? Also is your objective to "win" a debate or to understand and analyze history and learn lessons?

  70. Sumbahdi Seddit how did The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) meet Aisha?

  71. Sumbahdi Seddit she was 14 when promised and 19 at consumation you don't know what you talking about. http://www.muslim.org/islam/aisha-age.htm

  72. Aisha was 14 when promised to The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and 19 when the marriage was consummated don't disagree in ignorance review this source before responding. http://www.muslim.org/islam/aisha-age.htm

  73. Let's no mistaken the original blaq Arabs with the later mulatto(aryan and blaq mixed one), but bottom line the Arab that we know of today to be, did in fact started slavery as we know to it be today, long before their fello aryan greco-roman family. As a matter of fact it was the aryan arabs who taught the greco-romans how to set up a slavery system. But we should also mention(as sumbhadi seddit stated) that the aryans did in fact enslaved their own aryan people prior it just being the dark skinned mother lander exclusively.

  74. The original Arabs where not these European looking one's today. ..that being said the slave trades did not always focus on the so-African. .it was done when most wars where faught and to the victor went the booty or the spoils. ..Christian,Jews, Muslims, etc Arabs, Europeans Asians, Africans all shared in the enslave practice. ..the Moors ruled in Europe and had European slaves. ..there haram were filled with European women. ..We changed the looks of the European Italians in Sicily and other parts of Europe. .but we where sold out…and they began to focus more on the darker people of the world for the slave trade. …but it was not always like that. ..but still wrong. ..

  75. William Eaton says:

    Uneducated uninformed ignorant revisionist afrocentric idiocy at it's finest. Actually both the Arabs and Hebrews are Caucasian of Semitic stock. Obviously failed basic physical anthropology and genetics

  76. Well some of our history is great but if it all were great we wouldn't have to go thru the last 500 years of slavery and racism we did as a people. so we have to be made aware of the bad part so we can take steps to protect ourselves and our future. Keep in mind we were slaves and slave masters. The thing that makes the white slave trade worse is the fact that we can't remember any of our history. OUR VERY MINDS WERE STOLEN AND children were property forever. we still wear our enemies last names (proudly)

  77. Sumbahdi Seddit "we been trained to dismiss the disfunction in other cultures and see our own as some sort of innate savagery or unique condition. " SO TRUE AND ON EVERY LEVEL… like black on black crime and other issues that are UNIVERSAL but ppl act as if it is us exclusively and when e do it it has to be analyzed pathologized etc when you see the same thing all over..with everyone… it is a psychological scam…

  78. Terry White says:

    Peace, you said Arabs in FACT started slavery? How can that be when the earliest form of Slavery was in Egypt/Kemet taking slaves out of Kush/Nubia. We have the earliest slave trade out of Kemet/Egypt at Gebal Sheikh. It shows that The Egyptians were taking out Kush bound by their necks!

  79. Terry White says:

    There is no such thing as Aryan Arabs, where do you people get this from? Iranians are not Arabs, they are Persians Indo-European. Turks are not Arabs, the original Arabs are African from both sides of the Red Sea, Arabia is north east Africa. You had Kushite Arabs, and on the west side of the Red Sea their place was called "Kusha Dwipa". Red Clyde Winters and Drusilla Dunjee Hustons books!

  80. Terry White says:

    Exactly, they only read one corrupted Hadith and not read the whole. A'isha was never 6 and 9 years old and got married to Muhammad sa, and it's definitely not in the Qur'an! Muhammad sa said an orphan or a person need to reach a certain age to be responsible, picture Muhammad sa leaving responsibilites to A'isha at the age of 9! Most people don't read the Sahih Sitta "Six sound ahadith" they get one excerpt from someone else regurgitate it to the levels of insanity and think they are right.
    Throughout the Bible Older men are marrying young females, In Egypt One Pharaoh said " Marry young", Hatshepsut was married to her own brother at the age of 12!
    The Talmud, Jewish scriptures precisely says they can marry a 3 year old. Yep that's what I said a 3 year old. So people need to stop it and learn before they get smashed by someone who knows.
    Peace
    Thank you.

  81. Terry White says:

    Exactly !!! people need to go and read Cheikh Anta Diop, thank you.

  82. Terry White says:

    the Scholar Dana Marniche, clearly stated that the slaves who African Arabs had was Caucasians! There were Caucasians who accepted Islam they were not Arabs and had some slaves. If you read the Arabic you would know this. African Arab slaves had prisoners of war [POW] and they treated them with diginity, the people knew who they were, they didn't strip them of their language, their deity etc. Caucasian slave trade was the worse. Dr. John Henrik Clarke stated himself, the Trans Atlantic slave trade at least 200 million Africans were taken out of Africa, but here he said Arabs had 50 million, how is the Arabs worser? Everyone had slaves, our job is to stop it now. America, you think slavery don't exist? Read your constitution!!!
    The Ass kicker here is Dr. John Henrik Clarke said himself if he had to choose a religion it would be Islam. Why not Egypt? Why not Christianity? He was deep into Egypt and bias against Islam, but he made that statement, that is the most confusing thing I have heard come out of his mouth.

  83. Another thing he isn't talking about was that slave trade was established in that area by Alexander the Great. The Greeks brought that crap and is stayed their amoung the people.

  84. Kevin M. Ali I read sources from the periods you address I see no notion of rcism as you describe for the Medieval period.

  85. Kevin M. Ali says:

    Shawn Mc this term is only coneptual becasue of racism and it is not germain to the black African heratage..it is the invention of the european….I predominanly use African……what is your definition?

  86. The Africans brought to the New World as slaves were captured by other Africans. They were prisoners of war. Arabs traded in slaves, but they were already captives. Dr. Clarke was a very scholarly man, but he was an Islamophobe, which he disguised by making it look like he was merely anti-Arab. He constantly tried to portray Arabs as "foriegn". Since even he could have seen that Arabia is connected to Africa by land, I don't know how this was even a thing.

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