The growing absence of fathers in American households — particularly in the African-American community — has been studied by academicians for decades, with liberal and conservative writers and policymakers squaring off and pointing fingers in different directions. But there’s very little argument that many of the regulations instituted during President Lyndon B. Johnson’s War on Poverty, such as the welfare, food stamp and Medicaid programs, act as disincentives for mothers and fathers to stay together.
A Mother’s Calculation: A Man Will Reduce Her Income
Welfare programs created disincentives for couples to get married because benefits are reduced as a family’s income rises. A mother will receive far more from welfare if she is single than if she has an employed husband in the home. For many low-income couples, marriage means a reduction in government assistance and an overall decline in the couple’s joint income — a reduction of benefits by an average of 10 percent to 20 percent of their total income. Because so many of the other programs low-income women rely on — such as food stamps, public housing, Medicaid and public day care — also carry a means test, single mothers are cut off from a wide range of government services if they decide to marry and subsequently raise their income. Over time, for many Black women in low-income neighborhoods, they see the father of their child(ren) as a less reliable breadwinner and partner than the federal government.
This is an ignorant, very misinformed piece of literature. Real life people don't rationalize in that fashion. There are completely different issues destroying families, mostly the inability to harbor healthy interpersonal relationships over yrs, as many ppl do.
When women, particularly black women started saying,"we don't need a man", well, black men became believers. Good article.
The U.S. maintains concentration camps and calls them "reservations" and "projects". Black people think the government is helping when they give us cheap and nearly free housing but living in those areas allow the government to miseducate our children in a variety of ways. We participate in our own genocide when we allow the government to give us food, housing, education and be our parent from cradle to grave.
You have an growing absence of fathers in American households in Caucasoid race as well, but they don't advertise that……and if there are fathers in the household, often they are stepfathers, and you know the horror story about step parents. This is nothing more then keeping the brothers and the sisters feeling inferior……THERE ARE ISSUES IN ALL HUMANS AND HUMANKIND.
http://www.howigotcustody.org/DADS–How-they-re-pushed-out.html
The link above breaks down, in more detail, how fathers in general are pushed out, by 5 government systems. It is overwhelming, but a lot of times dads are too lazy, soft or scared to man up and push a little hard and not take "no" for an answer. They are brainwashed by a radical feminist society and are afraid of the "boogeyman" (nothing).
For example, many dads come to me when denied medical/school records. We turn around and email, fax, mail letters to the principal or doctor and CITE THE LAW that REQUIRES equal treatment and access to records. We threaten to report them to the State Board of Health/Education and higher ups like superintendents. Lo and behold, all of a sudden: compliance with the law and they are asking the father how soon he wants the records. All it takes is a LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT and for you to CARE MORE ABOUT YOUR KIDS than you do about the inconvenience or your feelings getting hurt.
Well, they shouldn't JUST BELIEVE and then get scared and walk away and OBEY their baby mama AS IF she is ALSO the father's mommy too. The system is jacked, yes. But, fathers also give up too quick and easy.
You're ignorant. The #1 creator of fatherless families are MOTHERS who abuse the courts, child support, welfare, restraining order systems and family court to push fathers out. All you have to do is ask 10 people and you will find one or two who know this first hand. You are JUST LIKE a white person who says, "Racism isn't real" (because THEY never experience it themselves). You are BLIND to the reality of the 5 systems that push dads out. Why? Because you have never experienced it. 99 out of 100 fathers who go through the system say the system pushed them away from their children. Anyone with half a brain, who puts a little effort into researching this knows it's true. You are speaking from the hip and have no clue what you are talking about.
Well, personal jabs aren't my style, but do you my friend. I've grown up surrounded by single parent homes, & rarely were the courts the reason Men weren't being active fathers. I know the statistics & the ppl in real life. Child support and welfare end romances, once children becone involved? Please elaborate. My half brain having ass can't make sense of this. Not saying there aren't women who abuse the system. It's just this hasty generalization by the author seems like a frustrated guess. But seriously tell me more, without degrading me if you don't mind you smart, compassionate intellectual young man…
What about the people who educate themselves & move out, and on to better quality of living. Do we not account for them? Are they lost causes because everyone doesn't take advantage of the opportunity?
See man, I knew you were way too intelligent to resort to personal barbs & what not. Proud to see there are strong souls like you. Keep being yourself, just be more respectable in trying to get others to understand your view. They'll be a lot more receptive that way my brother
*respectful
@Janssen Askew government systems create generational poverty and penalize those who try to escape. The penalties are immediate loss of all economic support and without family or community support and poverty type education most who run from government plantations crash. Those who escape and make it should be celebrated because they broke free of systematic government chains.
@Janssen Askew government systems create generational poverty and penalize those who try to escape. The penalties are immediate loss of all economic support and without family or community support and poverty type education most who run from government plantations crash. Those who escape and make it should be celebrated because they broke free of systematic government chains.
@Janssen Askew government systems create generational poverty and penalize those who try to escape. The penalties are immediate loss of all economic support and without family or community support and poverty type education most who run from government plantations crash. Those who escape and make it should be celebrated because they broke free of systematic government chains.
I see. So do you think transitional programs for those who are beginning to do for themselves financially, would help decrease some of the issues associated with it all?
@Janssen, Jewish groups fundraise to support other Jews who are in poverty. We should do the same and get government out of our lives. Government cannot replace family and community but it our poor communities people rely on government for childcare, food, housing, health, education and anything we need.
James Christianson You're ASSuming these fathers give up to "quick and easy."From what I've read in this article, that's not the case. Secondly, it's unfortunate that it has come to a point where men have to fight to be fathers, that's sad. It's so sad, that many MRA's (men rights advocates, mostly white males) like yourself are defecting in droves to MGTOW ( men going their own way). For those who don't know, MGTOW are men who have no interest in getting married and many consider having a child through a surrogate mother , so that they have sole custody of the child as fathers. All of this to avoid the legal pitfalls and legal entanglements that crush men in divorce and crush men legally when having children the traditional way. These men have become so significant that books have been written on them, such as, "Men On Strike", which the author argues persuasively that these men (mostly white) avoiding marriage is rational because as you said,"the system is jacked."
You are an ignorant ass. Don't put that shit on black women. The black woman was responding to and hitting back at the rejection of the black man. Black women have always held their men down. When he couldn't get a job; not that he didn't want or look for employment, but was locked out of the market place. The wife would work and hold things together until he was able to find a job. When she would work to support one and all as he attended college. Some times, most time he would get his degree and better job and keep going leaving her to not only struggle but to continue to have to pay all of the bills alone. Don't put the shit on the black woman, when she tried to maintain her pride, hurting like hell inside, as she stated, "I don't need a man and wishing he would stay to keep the family together and the dream of a better life alive." Fucking idiot. Pride..even faux pride is better than having no pride as she watches her husband walk away with a younger model of herself or a non-black version. She made the sacrifices and he got the new life. That's why it is hard for black women to trust black men; any man. creating a faux harden exterior over the softest centers on the planet.
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You are an ignorant ass. Don't put that shit on black women. The black woman was responding to and hitting back at the rejection of the black man. Black women have always held their men down. When he couldn't get a job; not that he didn't want or look for employment, but was locked out of the market place. The wife would work and hold things together until he was able to find a job. When she would work to support one and all as he attended college. Some times, most time he would get his degree and better job and keep going leaving her to not only struggle but to continue to have to pay all of the bills alone. Don't put the shit on the black woman, when she tried to maintain her pride, hurting like hell inside, as she stated, "I don't need a man and wishing he would stay to keep the family together and the dream of a better life alive." Fucking idiot. Pride..even faux pride is better than having no pride as she watches her husband walk away with a younger model of herself or a non-black version. She made the sacrifices and he got the new life. That's why it is hard for black women to trust black men; any man. creating a faux harden exterior over the softest centers on the planet.
Janssen Askew A combination of the two government and private for transition and community. Safe after school or latchkey programs for single parents w/o partners, homework centers and mentors. additional science, math, and english classes. A clear path to stability and knowing that the community is still there for emotional support.
They were also responding to the FACT that some men took advantage of the woman having to be the bread winner and deciding they liked chilling with their friends and other men. They were not trying to contribute to the housework or cooking or caring for the children. The wife was doing it all and it was breaking her down, aging her to the point where she decided "why is he even here?" I CAN DO BAD ALL BY MYSELF. Black men never saw or refuse to comprehend their blame, as to why she would say such a thing. Black men have never apologized, believing they deserve an apology. It's easier to blame than have to self-assess and admit they were wrong, too. HOWEVER, AND LET'S KEEP THIS IN PERSPECTIVE. Even if they felt some kind of way, they get to divorce their wives, NOT THEIR CHILDREN. White men do it too, but a Black man should be fighting tooth and nail for his children knowing what's waiting for them and the statistics that back it up. Quality children not quantity of children will define who you are as a parent among your peers and society.
Janssen Askew Thank you for that bit of honesty. The courts were never the problem, because very rarely did black women take advantage of its assistance. Very rarely would black women bring authorities in to their relationships, because then they lose control. No courts, no police or welfare. They took the onus on themselves. Welfare when the father was unable to cover all of the bills on his own and never giving up his name for the government to contact for child support. Whenever child support was requested was when the father promised to help the support the children after the break up , then deciding they were not going to give any money to care for their child. I thought this was a problem poor women contended with, until I watched an episode of RHOA and this rich basketball player stated emphatically he's not paying child support. He would never pay child support, as though it was an assault on him.
I personally know a woman that agreed to $50 a week from her HUSBAND for their daughter. No courts involved. She left their four bedroom home with just the daughters furniture and a television. The television failed the second week, so she asked him to replace it, as she couldn't afford it. He not only said he couldn't, but didn't send her the next $50 dollars. She waited and he missed the next week. She phoned and he said he had a bill to pay and to be patient. He missed the next one and that's when she went to court. He never intended to honor the payments. She was willing not to burden him and only accept a pittance from him and he was a high earner. He decided to be a deadbeat. Instead of paying $200 dollars a month, the courts had him give her $500 a month. Whose to blame?
Men just don't think they should have to pay child support. It offends them and this is something that I just don't get. How in the hell do you enjoy a meal, if you don't know if your child has enough to eat?
Ann Eds Black men have and are fighting tooth and nail for their children even though most black women have chosen the government as their husbands and caretakers for themselves and their children. And, many black women are using the government to separate black men from their children. The author of the article is trying to be fair and politically correct, but the truth is the truth. Speaking of divorce and abandoning children, why do you think women (including black women) divorced their husbands in record numbers, starting in the 70's?
Collin Johnson You're a fool. You're a fool that will not believe anything I write, because you are fully invested in your beliefs and will always respond with a "but". Do you know what "but" means? Ignore everything that came before it.
Men from the 70s were dropping babies on every women that would spread their legs for them, believing the bullshit. It was the time of the hippies and free love. They didn't care about any babies made, because they never intended to support any of them. The 70s was when black men could openly get with and fuck white women. This they joyfully did talking about they were getting back at white men for what they did to "our" black women. Right, that's why they left "their" black women to support their black children and carry the burden of the entire family.
The black family was under seige. Black men couldn't find work, which meant the family had to separate in order for the mother to care assistance. Some families did this by stating the father left them, but in reality he was still very much around. However, they had to seek separation and sometimes divorce to make sure the family remained housed and fed. Some times the fathers went to other states with the intention of sending for the family, but, instead, kept going and never looked back. Sometimes the father/husband went to the store to buy a pack of cigarettes and never returned. Or, as I stated before the woman worked to put her husband through college and he decided he was going to keep moving forward or decide his wife didn't fit in with his new "friends", because she wasn't educated. It never occurred to him that with the new job he could afford to pay her way through college. He dumped her for her sacrifices and loyalty to him.
There was the 80s with the CIA dumping drugs in black communities, further devastating black families.Black women didn't choose the government to replace the father/husband he abdicated his position and by doing so forced them on her to guarantee the children he left were fed.
You hate black women, you won't admit it, but I get it. Don't lie on them. That black woman you have such contempt for, that held you down, until you could get up to support that white mans wife, daughter, sister and niece, would appreciate if you all would stop showing up at the finish line when the child has been successfully raised with a sorry mouth telling a sorry story as to why you had not been around. Some times lying on the mother about keeping you away.
I could go on, but I feel like I've wasted 10 minutes I won't get back again.
Collin Johnson Very rarely do black women seek child support through the courts. I don't believe it even occurs to them. They just want to be left alone, especially if the the guy was a cheat and a deadbeat. If the father of the child does the right thing, none of them see the inside of a courtroom. In fact, in many cases of unexpected deaths, the children are the ones harmed by this arrangement because they lose out on their financial entitlements and protections. Now, it's a requirement for child support papers must be filed at the time when requesting assistance. It has been learned that the first one to file for child support is the one that is fairly treated. All subsequent births will share in what's left.
Ann Eds Fascinating comments. You stated "Very rarely do black women seek child support through the courts. I don't believe it even occurs to them. They just want to be left alone, especially if the the guy was a cheat and a deadbeat. If the father of the child does the right thing, none of them see the inside of a courtroom."By your logic, it would seem most black fathers are doing "the right thing"because, "very rarely do black mothers seek child support through the courts."Consequently, according to your logic, most black fathers aren't seeing the inside of family court. Interesting indeed. It would seem, according to your statement, that most black fathers are doing the right thing, then why are most black mothers deciding to have children out of wedlock?
I want to address Ann Eds assertions of black women's "loyalty" to black men. Black women are no more "loyal" than any other race of woman to their men. How can I say this? Black women, along with other races of women initiate 80% of divorces. With those divorces come alimony, and child support. The major reason these women filed for divorce was irreconcilable differences, which means the husband isn't doing what the wife is telling him to do, about 5% or less divorced because of abuse.In general, black women like other women are only loyal to a financial bottom line, with or without a husband.
James Christianson you are a wise individual man god bless