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  1. LaTia Adkins says:

    You ARE the problem Eagle Eye.

  2. Who cares any more……just to show how much hate you have in your heart…….but, if you think black people is going to stand by and let you bully on them…..then you too, is the problem this country faces……..and, black people is going to continue to set this country on fire…….

  3. I only have one problem with this. using the statement "i have black friends" is very good proof that you are not racist, of course that is unless you are lying. he said that you can know black people and still be racist however that doesn't sound right at all. there's a difference between knowing someone enough to be friends and just knowing them and if you actually do have black friends then its kinda obvious you aren't racist. racist people hate a specific group of people or multiple groups. it goes without saying that if you are racist towards black people why would you be friends with them. aside from that everything else he said was right.

  4. Ashlee WithtwoEs Nichols says:

    I'm sorry but that isn't necessarily true. White people can have friends who are black but don't not know they hold racist/stereotypical beliefs against them. I've been a witness to them several times. A lot of white people do not know they are racist. For example, a white girl who chooses to date a black man because she's heard the stereotype that black men are well endowed; or a white woman dates black men to spite her father are both forms of racism. A white person telling their black "friend" that "you"re black but not black black" or "I'm glad you're not like the rest of them", or my all time favorite, "I don't see you as black (as if it's some kind of compliment)", are all racist statements made by white who have black "friends". I'm not saying this is the case all the time but it happens more often than some may want to believe.

  5. Ashlee WithtwoEs Nichols says:

    I'm sorry but that isn't necessarily true. White people can have friends who are black but don't not know they hold racist/stereotypical beliefs against them. I've been a witness to them several times. A lot of white people do not know they are racist. For example, a white girl who chooses to date a black man because she's heard the stereotype that black men are well endowed; or a white woman dates black men to spite her father are both forms of racism. A white person telling their black "friend" that "you"re black but not black black" or "I'm glad you're not like the rest of them", or my all time favorite, "I don't see you as black (as if it's some kind of compliment)", are all racist statements made by white who have black "friends". I'm not saying this is the case all the time but it happens more often than some may want to believe.

  6. Ashlee WithtwoEs Nichols says:

    I'm sorry but that isn't necessarily true. White people can have friends who are black but don't not know they hold racist/stereotypical beliefs against them. I've been a witness to them several times. A lot of white people do not know they are racist. For example, a white girl who chooses to date a black man because she's heard the stereotype that black men are well endowed; or a white woman dates black men to spite her father are both forms of racism. A white person telling their black "friend" that "you"re black but not black black" or "I'm glad you're not like the rest of them", or my all time favorite, "I don't see you as black (as if it's some kind of compliment)", are all racist statements made by white who have black "friends". I'm not saying this is the case all the time but it happens more often than some may want to believe.

  7. Ashlee WithtwoEs Nichols you do have very good points and i do agree those are racist comments and actions. but i think there's a grey area to some of the points you made. there is a complete difference between a racist/stereotypical belief and fact. fact is statistics do show that in poverty areas the majority of crimes are committed by blacks. this is not say all blacks are criminals or that whites and hispanics don't commit crimes only that blacks unfortunately are the majority percentile. using the statement "I'm glad you're not like the rest of them" while yes being racist is also a compliment under certain circumstances. this may not be true in every case but for instance i do have black friends quite a few in fact and while they aren't perfect by all means they are not like the majority percentile in their areas. in that way i am glad for them because even though they didn't grow up well off they are earning their own money and making a living other than being a criminal. so in my opinion depending on the comment even though it may be racist it is less than by all means calling a black person the n word for instance. although as far as my original comment is concerned i was only pointing out that typically those who are actually racist don't just make comments like you listed they usually outright hate an entire group. that being the case a racist person would not have black friends and frankly i doubt they would lie about it either. my comment was geared mostly towards accusations of racism. when someone calls you out on being racist when you are clearly not using that statement is very good proof that you aren't racist.

  8. Ashlee WithtwoEs Nichols, the man is correct in what he said. I have white friends but it will never change how I feel about them over all. I love my white friends, but white people as a whole when you look at whats happening and the past in this country and what continues to happen when dealing with the white race, who has messed with every race on this earth, I have a big problem with them and I don't care for their ugliness… that's within most of them. The over all are hateful and cruel and are so from from God it's frighting. So what you said about white people having black friends means nothing. They can still call you a nigger and get on the phone and call one of their black friends as if everything is cool. Don't get it twisted, you will always be looked at as a nigger by white people in this society, like it or not and it will never matter if they have black friends or not. You have no clue what they are saying behind closed doors.

  9. Ashlee WithtwoEs Nichols says:

    There is no such thing as a "light/nice racist" or "mean racist". A racist is a racist. You mention statistics but do you know that because of this very racism that blacks are charged for crimes at a much greater percentage than whites; therefore giving you those rates you refer to? Did you not read the "CrimingWhileWhite" hashtag where white people talked about crimes they've committed but weren't charged for? Statistics can only show numbers for people who were actually charged and are not an accurate representation of actual crimes committed between demographics. White people like to refer to "black on black" crime as if it's something different than crimes committed between whites and other racial groups. Most white people are killed by other white people. Most serial killers are white. Most people who commit school shootings are white but has society labeled white people as "bad"? Do the actions of a portion of the white race influence beliefs about the entire population in the minds of others? The answer is no. So, why is it that the actions of a percentage of blacks who receive negative media attention a reflection of the entire race and those who are upstanding citizens seen as anomalies? White people smoke marijuana at the same rates as blacks but aren't charged for it nearly as much as their counterparts. So, your statistics are not credible and telling a black friend that they are "not like the rest of them" (implying that the generally accepted stereotypes are true and are specific to the black race) is NOT a compliment. That is very racist. Be careful what you allow statistics and the media allow you to believe. There is way more than meets the eye.

  10. Ashlee WithtwoEs Nichols well first off i wasn't specifying black on black, black on white, etc type crimes i was just saying crimes in general. theft, murder things like that. yes i do agree that statistics are only based off of who was charged and i am not saying that using these statistics is a legitimate way to persecute people, assuming that one is a criminal based on the color of their skin is flat out ignorance. I've seen many people killed due to this and its absurd in my opinion. although that being said in the example i gave i was not using statistics to group and judge i was simply saying that out of the charged criminals in the area that those friends live in they are doing better and that is a good thing not for me but for themselves, it means they've beaten the statistics that are available. as far as the actions of a few determining the view of a race i personally don't see it that way, i see people as individuals and that there are extremists in every group who's actions are not a representation of the group as a whole. also i did not see the criming while white hashtag cause i literally have not seen it, it has yet to appear on my news feed and i am not a part of twitter. although even though i haven't seen it i do not doubt that there are many people not only whites but blacks and hispanics who have committed crimes and gotten away with it, i do happen to know people who are more acquaintances than friends who have committed crimes and have gotten away with them so i do know that there are people who aren't charged for their crimes.

  11. Marcus Diggs says:

    1ST MISTAKE IS THE ASSUMPTION THAT WHITE PEOPLE HAVE A MONOPOLY ON RACISM WHEN MOST WHITE PEOPLE, LIKE MOST BLACK PEOPLE, CANNOT BE RACIST SIMPLY BECAUSE RACISM IS AN ABUSE OF POWER. ALL OF US ARE PREJUDICED WHETHER WE KNOW IT OR NOT. THAT IS USUALLY OF NO CONCERN UNLESS YOU'RE IN A POSITION OF AUTHORITY. THE ABUSE OF POWER IS THE ISSUE AT HAND, NOT RACISM. "No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it." Albert Einstein.

  12. Paul Logan Jr. says:

    100 with Tim Wise, ALWAYS!

  13. Bryan Cross says:

    I think black and white and all other races people need to just stop being assholes for like 5 minutes and realize we are culturally different but more or less we are all the same…some good some bad.

  14. Sabina Schenk says:

    Ashlee WithtwoEs Nichols : after my divorce, I started dating a black man from Detroit MI. Both of us around 60 yrs. old by then. I did not have any pre-conceived notions about being with a man from a different ethnic background. He was kind, giving and loving. We got along great, and I did not care in the least what other people thought about our relationship, in Detroit or in Canada. My kids accepted my choice, since they were raised without discrimination, and the rest of my family, in Europe, did not stop communicating with me either. I know there are racists everywhere in the world, unfortunately. How much longer will it take, for people to realize that there really is only One Race, the Human Race?. Different ethnic backgrounds make life a lot more interesting and fun. I would be bored stiff in an all-white world. I now live in South America and love it.

  15. Yep, it's white people that are the problem…

  16. Sandra Renee says:

    Nicolas Charette I think that you are overlooking the point that Ashlee is making. Racism is ugly and everyone can see that it is ugly. No one wants to be ugly so they cover up their ugliness. Racism in it's definition eliminates "minorities" from having the one major quality needed to be defined as such, which is, power. The majority, in any situation, maintain control. So, the majority of those who fall under the majority possess the ability to fall under the definition. Although not all of the majority care to enforce their power, that power does belong to them exclusively. Even though all of the majority care to enforce their power, they do benefit from those within the majority who do (prestige). As a representative of the majority, you have the opportunity to hear from someone from a representative of the minority. When you internalize what she is saying, don't see it as a personal affront against you as an individual because you can't stand individually when it comes to race/racism. Instead, step back and look at the fact that White people are the majority. Not because there are more Whites that any other race but, because they maintain a position of power in this White patriarchal ruled society through government control.

  17. Gregory Curtis says:

    Nicholas you make some very good points but I have 2 say that is a two edged sword because we as black people can also say that you are our friend and your commenting that u have black friends that are not criminals and are not like the majority of the people in the areas that they come from well that can also be said about you that you are not like the majority of the people in your area that may have a view of black people that is extremely different from yours it goes both ways Nicholas.until we stop being stereotypical about people we will NEVER get to know who they are and what they are all about that is the sad part that keeps us from bridging the gap.

  18. Gregory Curtis says:

    I'm sorry to say this Jerry but yes white people are the problem simply because of the stereotypical circle created around us throughout the world people that I have talked to from other countries eventually as our dialogue gets deeper and more personal and friendly they cannot believe there they are talking to a black man from America because in their own words they've been taught by white people not to trust us not to get close to us and that we are thieves and murderers and that we are ignorant dumb and stupid so yes it starts with white people but it can end with all people accepting each other on their merit and not on a stereotypical circle that has been drawn around them.Jerry I really hope you get that message and don't take it personal but it is true.

  19. and people have a sterotypica view that all white people run around the world telling all the people that all the black people are murderers and thieves…sorry in those famous words of Rodney King can't we all just get along

  20. and people have a sterotypica view that all white people run around the world telling all the people that all the black people are murderers and thieves…sorry in those famous words of Rodney King can't we all just get along

  21. and people have a sterotypica view that all white people run around the world telling all the people that all the black people are murderers and thieves…sorry in those famous words of Rodney King can't we all just get along

  22. James Lee says:

    Your analysis has little historical context. Racism is not just about power. It is based in the Western notion of White supremacy it is culture with power. White Supremacy created a color hierarchy and then organized (in the US) its institutions and transactions around this notion. It was a top down (powerful) and bottom up (everyone else) effort among Whites. There was a White consensus that people of color -especially Blacks would be marginalized. Blacks are generally prejudiced against Whites for their perception of Whites being predators historically against Blacks. Whites have many reasons for their prejudices – Blacks are ugly, Blacks are stupid – generally it is not based upon any personal experience, but the enjoyment of racially bullying Black Americans.

  23. James Lee says:

    That has very little to do with what is going on. Racism is an INSTITUTIONAL AND CULTURAL SYSTEM of thought and behavior. That may be too complicated for you to understand if you were educated in US school system.

  24. Marcus Diggs says:

    I beg to differ…..A Racists is someone who believes I racial superiority or inferiority. Racism is the practice of that prejudice combined with discrimination. But even dictionaries today fail to define it properly. Regardless, the conversation of the day regarding Police Officers ( people who have been entrusted with Power and Government issued Firearms ) and the deaths of unarmed people is not as much a racial issue as it is an abuse of power issue. The Racial prejudice issue probably doesn't have a solution. The problem with the abuse of power can be remedied easily ad I've already heard practical solutions in the comments made y everyday people online. So I repeat…………… "No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it." Albert Einstein……..nd that's why there may not be a answer to racism, it incorporates a very primal human survival instinct called prejudice. It also incorporates discrimination.

  25. Marcus Diggs says:

    Racism wouldn't be a problem, social disease or anything worth discussing if there was IN FACT equal protection under the law. Now are we going to fix the problem or waste our lives trying to make white people love black people or straight men love gay men or women love……let me stop!

  26. Marcus Diggs says:

    Like that'll happen

  27. KO Ade says:

    You said, "…RACISM IS AN ABUSE OF POWER." Then you said, "…Police Officers( people who have been entrusted with Power and Government issued Firearms) and the deaths of unarmed citizens is not as much a racial issue as it is an abuse of power issue." With all do respect, there seems to be a slight contradition in your definition. Is racism an abuse of power or not?

  28. KO Ade says:

    While that sounds very sweet and "coom by ya-ish" Its really no more than a way of avoiding the issue. How do you propsed we come to that realization?

  29. Marcus Diggs says:

    Racism is combination of things. Prejudice and Discrimination. The 1st part has no realistic solution. The second part can be remedied with punishment.

  30. well said Marcus. I have in my 62 years traveled all over the world I have never once told anybody in any country about how bad black people are. my father was military travel to Japan Germany France and then I was drafted and went back to Germany never once did I speak ill of any race. Except maybe the Germans during the war. And most of them are white.

  31. to get everybody in America not to be a racist….is a pipe dream. ever see the Star Trek with the two men fighting both are split down the middle black on one side white on the other????they were fighting because one was black on the left the other one was black on the right. if we were all identical we would still find something. oh I think I'm saying is let's give it a rest I'm exhausted

  32. Anthony Mondon says:

    Marcus Diggs …"The willing suspension of disbelief", may be something you should ponder.

    BTW, I don't have a clue as to where your "waste our lives trying to make white people love black people" remark came from, but I never suggested such a thing, and I never will…"black" people (I'm one of 'em) don't need "white" peoples' love, we demand that "white" people stop trying to treat us as lesser beings is all…stop or face the consequences.

  33. Marcus Diggs says:

    we're even because I have o clue where your "willing suspension of disbelief" comes from unless it was Reagan……..oh well……but I might look it up. Anyhow, what you just said is what I've been trying to say…….EQUAL PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW. Then you can hate me if you want to, it wouldn't matter.

  34. Anthony Mondon says:

    Marcus Diggs "Then you can hate me if you want to"…I suggest that you look up assumption too, or just plain ole "ass. u. me" while you're at it…

  35. Sabina Schenk I love your comment and I am happy for you!

  36. Anthony Mondon says:

    Undefined and or very poorly defined problems are almost always impossible to solve.

    Some taxonomic descriptions of other animals:

    fish genus – any of various genus of fish Cyprinus, genus Cyprinus – type genus of the family Cyprinidae: carp Abramis, genus Abramis – European fishes genus.

    bird genus – a genus of birds Craniata, subphylum Craniata, subphylum Vertebrata, Vertebrata…

    Snakes are a suborder, which is a higher rank than a genus. Currently there are about 500 known genera (genuses) of snake.

    Etc., etc.. etc….the point being that only where it comes to the genus Homo do we find the (fictional) category of "race"…stop talking about it, it does not exist! You cannot be rid of a toothache if you expect that only a TOOTH FAIRY can help you!

    "Debunking Biological Theories of Race.

    C. Loring Brace

    The Emperor's New Clothes: Biological Theories of Race at the Millennium. Joseph L. Graves, Jr. xiv + 252 pp. Rutgers University Press, 2001. $28.

    A book declaring that biological races do not exist and that the concept of race "was socially constructed, arising from the colonization of the New World and the importation of slaves, mainly from western Africa…the author, Joseph L. Graves, Jr., is a laboratory geneticist, and he has made his case based on solid science, not on feel-good social motivations."

    http://www.americanscientist.org/bookshelf/pub/debunking-biological-theories-of-race

    More to the point…

    "When our ancestors first migrated out of Africa around 60,000 years ago, they were not alone. At that time, at least two other species of hominid cousins walked the Eurasian landmass—Neanderthals and Denisovans. As our modern human ancestors migrated through Eurasia, they encountered the Neanderthals and interbred. Because of this, a small amount of Neanderthal DNA was introduced into the modern human gene pool.

    Everyone living outside of Africa today has a small amount of Neanderthal in them, carried as a living relic of these ancient encounters."

    https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/neanderthal/

    Only when we accept that our differences are real, and that they are not based on the fiction of "race" but rather on the basis of species differentiation, only then will we be able to properly and clearly define what we now call "racism", and so armed, hopefully, we may get about the business of solving this "problem" for once and for all.

  37. Gregory Curtis says:

    you may not have said that Jerry and I applaud you for that but I was also stationed in Germany and I know what I was told by Germans I spent 5 years in Germany back in the seventy's so you know I'm right

  38. Gregory Curtis says:

    the very first thing that needs to be done is that people need to be honest and sincere about trying to make a changeand we must also be honest of what we know has been laid down to create the problems that we have here in America with racism.

  39. Kenzie Mac says:

    @Marcus Diggs : It is an abuse of power when it doesn't have a default target! but when it is meticulously selective in its use of deadly force against a particular group, that my friend is racism, no matter how much you try to justify it or hide behind semantics!

  40. Kenzie Mac says:

    @Jerry Beasley :You may be the exception! But the rule still stands

  41. Kenzie Mac says:

    @Nicolas Charette : Anybody who says, I have black friends or white friends is racist! plain and simple! because a friend is someone you know by name and not by color!

  42. James Lee says:

    Marcus Diggs The human races were classified by Europeans and set up in a hierarchal system . Racism as we know it was not some arbitrary human trait. It was a culturally constructed system of ranking human beings according to skin color and physical features, and "racial traits",as seen through the eyes of European observers this grew into a philosophy as Europeans transversed the globe. Racism is definitely a product of White Supremacy in terms of its historical evolution. You should actually LEARN the HISTORY of racial classification, and then you will concede my point. Racism and prejudice are not the same thing.

  43. Marcus Diggs says:

    Kenzie Mac Didn't say it wasn't….. said that there's no solution to that problem………ca you hear the words that are comin out of my mouth………

  44. Kenzie Mac I do know my friends by name however when you have ignorant people who wish to call everyone they see racist its a wise idea to instead of just saying names to identify that you have friends in more than one ethnicity. for instance if i said i had a friend named Kevin, which i do, you would more than likely assume he was white based on his name however my friend Kevin is black and he's a pretty chill guy. Identifying that you have friends of many ethnicities is not racist, its only racist to people people who are to ignorant to understand the difference.

  45. Marcus Diggs says:

    James Lee never said they were the same thing……don't put words in my mouth…..if you can't understand me, ask me to explain…… don't interpret something you don't comprehend//////whies inveted a racil hierchy sytem…..tat's ridiculous…..who's in seond place…..the irish

  46. Marcus Diggs says:

    James Lee racism has a quality that prejudice doesn't have………..power and abuse

  47. Dan Kinch says:

    White Americans don't understand just how privileged a class they are until they're in a situation where they don't have it. There are places where simply being a white person doesn't cut any slack–you are in fact the person least likely to get served, or have your customer service problem taken seriously, or even be treated decently by the locals. Once you've experienced it you don't forget it. That's an experience that Black America deals with every day. Tim Wise is right as usual.

  48. James Lee says:

    Marcus Diggs You can disagree all that you want to–racism has a specific history. It is about social relationships between groups at the social level. Racism needs agreement within culture before individuals can participate by becoming individual racists.

  49. Mr.Diggs , I am curious to know if your white or Black? you sound like a white person attempting to deflect the bottom line which is white supremacy and deep rooted denial does not help and for you to use quote's by Albert Einstein who was from Germany is not valid I own a copy of his book out of my later year's which is good , but please don't use him as a source on white supremacy and RACISM , because even though he was a smart and a good person he himself still benefited from a system of white supremacy and never ever compare whites in America to Black's in America every study that's been done show's there is institutionalized Racism weather it was done by Black's or whites.I have come to find that when Black people speak like you do they are normally in a relationship with a white person, and if they are white they are simply in denial and suffer from white guilt. WHITES who are not racist still benefit from a system that is regardless of what you may think, I suggest you read the book two nations by Dr. Andrew Hacker and there are many more I could recommend , but start here.. peace and free yourself with REALITY.

  50. Marcus Diggs says:

    Larome Armstrong…..let me try to clarify my thoughts one final time without confusing by quotes from Einstein or anyone else. I have no denial when it comes to Racism. I have been a victim of it and will probably pay the price for what's left of my life. I simply believe, similar to Anthony Mondon , that race is a……non-issue. Let me try to further explain.
    I was taught, with much objection and reservation, that we as human beings have an instinctive survival tool. That we are all born with this instinct and without it we probably wouldn't survive for vey long. The instinct is pre-judgement or Prejudice. You can argue that it is something we learn through experience but you cannot argue that it is inherent in us all. I tried and lost the argument.
    Racism has more than one component. Even though our constitution……and lets not get into that original and embarrassing document………says you're innocent until proven guilty………as Americans, we know this is not the case and as Americans of African Descent , we know you better damn well be able to prove your innocence if accused of anything.
    Now let's look at another component of Racism, institutionalized or otherwise. Power and the abuse thereof.
    All I've been trying to say is………..There is nothing that can realistically be done to eliminate the prejudices of humans. It's a survival instinct that's in everybody's blood……..Yours may not be racial but you have yours like I have mine.You've pretty much proven that already by trying to judge my racial background by my comments………..I must be white or I must be black and in denial LOL SMFH SMD. Now guess again.
    Abuse of power is something I believe can be POLICED………did I just say a bad word?

  51. Marcus Diggs says:

    facebook.com/larome.armstrong…..let me try to clarify my thoughts one final time without confusing by quotes from Einstein or anyone else. I have no denial when it comes to Racism. I have been a victim of it and will probably pay the price for what's left of my life. I simply believe, similar to facebook.com/anthony.mondon , that race is a………………………….non-issue. Let me try to further explain.
    I was taught, with much objection and reservation, that we as human beings have an instinctive survival tool. That we are all born with this instinct and without it we probably wouldn't survive for vey long. The instinct is pre-judgement or Prejudice. You can argue that it is something we learn through experience but you cannot argue that it is inherent in us all. I tried and lost the argument.
    Racism has more than one component. Even though our constitution……and lets not get into that original and embarrassing document………says you're innocent until proven guilty( or is that the Bill of Rights)………as Americans, we know this is not the case and as Americans of African Descent , we know you better damn well be able to prove your innocence if accused of anything.
    Now let's look at another component of Racism, institutionalized or otherwise. Power and the abuse thereof.
    All I've been trying to say is………..There is nothing that can realistically be done to eliminate the prejudices of humans. It's a survival instinct that's in everybody's blood……..Yours may not be racial but you have yours like I have mine.You've pretty much proven that already by trying to judge my racial background by my comments………..I must be white or I must be black and in denial LOL SMFH SMD. Now guess again.
    Abuse of power is something I believe can be POLICED………did I just say a bad word?

  52. While 'race' is not a biological reality, 'RACISM' *is* a social reality…made real through institutional policies and systemic practices that privilege 'white' Americans. And as Tim Wise points out, white over-privilege is directly correlated with 'black' under-privilege!

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