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  1. Sundiata Keita says:

    thank you very much for posting the name of the film.

  2. Paul Mooney is absolutely right about the definition. I usually refer to it as systematic white supremacy because whites love to play games with the word racism (particularly with that bullshit reverse racism rhetoric). When you say systematic white supremacy that specifically refers to the laws and associated privileges created to marginalize people of color. It also puts the accountability exactly where it belongs when articulating its practice and damages to the people it was intended to oppress.

  3. Earl White says:

    He says what he feels, And he is right

  4. Anonymous says:

    Im sick of White folks……Period!

  5. Astrid van Eer says:

    He is so right, hear him for the first time and he's already my favored

  6. And this is what racism means…Racism is a problem of institutionalization, where one group has the power to take its prejudices and exercise them with impunity under de facto color of law (regardless what the laws on the books actually are).

  7. Paul Lewis says:

    NOW, IF THIS BROTHER DOES NOT CONTINUE TO HIT THIS SUBJECT MATTER ON THE HEAD; MY NAME IS NOT PAUL LEWIS. THIS JOINT IS SO POWERFUL; BUT FOLKS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GO ALONG, TO GET ALONG. "THE MINDSET REQUIRES CHANGE – SPEAK-OUT!!!"

    I'm just saying; is it possible that this inflammatory comedian got the TRUTH TWISTED? GOD FORBID!

    You may not agree with every point made by this brave and forth-right Champion for Justice, but more individuals of all races, creeds, ethnicities, etc…; should get involved with truly making a "REAL Change."

    It's not our imaginations folks, people are truly going through some tough times; and the Government is trying to play the Public As Fools.

    The "Willie Lynch Phenomenon" still has a stronghold on the African-American's psyche. This "CANCER" has transcended into all areas of America's society, to include the EEOC. Moreover, this curse has unfortunately spilled over into the mindsets of other "People of Color." Yet, we can not fault anyone else for wanting to abuse us, if we will not stop abusing ourselves.

    Yes indeed; "RACISM", is still a sad, sad situation for sure; but check out some more interesting and disturbing truths'. Now, we have folks that look like us (Minorities), pseudo-enforcing these abominations; right from within the very agency (EEOC) designed to eradicate this "Tumor". It's unfortunate, that this sort of mess is still permeating our society; and especially so, by laws and civil servants that are ill-quipped and inept to make a REAL DIFFERENCE. But, that's the shameful reality we face here in America, post 21st century.

    I believe this will make an excellent forum for folks to share their deepest concerns and heart-felt need for Time for Change = EEOC Reformation. I sure hope to have the following posting be a catalyst to spark this "Change".

    THE BLACK AGENDA, IS NOT A RACIST AGENDA; IT'S AN AGENDA OF MAKING EQUALITY, TRULY REAL FOR THE BLACK AMERICAN EXPERIENCES!!!

    I'm certain, without a doubt, that many of the disenfranchised would be very appreciative, if more folks would be embolden to speak out against the "STATUS QUO", and start another campaign to finally Rid America of these despicable acts.

    This would certainly increase the Momentum for another "Cause" = "Time for Change = EEOC Reformation", The Sanctioned Blight On Our Society.

    When we finally stamp out the egregious injustices in one area of our society (Civil Rights Violations); then, and only then can we as a society continue to move forward harmoniously, and have equal justice for all. I believe we can get this done if we all take action to vote 2014, and continue up until the next Presidential and Congressional Elections, again in Nov 2016.
    Demand EEOC Reformation.

    I pray that we can make a Transformation in ALL of our minds. I have the Faith of a mustard seed, and believe that this can, and, will be redeemed by continual prayers of all Believers and the Powerful Blood of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour.

    Change Can't, And Won't Come With Folks Staying Complacent And MUTED!! There Are Hundreds And Thousands Of Individuals Out There, Who Have Been Abused And Mistreated By The System. They Need A Voice To Help Bring About Reformation Of The EEOC! So, Let’s Get Out Of Our Comfort Zones, And Make These Changes Become A Reality. Continue to Expose the Violators!!!

    THIS WILL NOT BE POSSIBLE UNTIL FIRST THERE IS A CHANGE WITHIN THE WHOLE GOVERNMENTAL BODY: EXECUTIVE, LEGISLATIVE, JUDICIAL BRANCHES, IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY OF OURS. THEY WILL HAVE TO MAKE SOME SIGNIFICANT AND RELEVANT CHANGES MANIFEST FOR THE CONCERNED CITIZENS. IT'S Time for Change = EEOC Reformation!

    I PRAY THAT IN 2014, and before the end of his Presidency; President Barack Obama WILL SEE THIS PIECE OF UP IN YOUR FACE REQUEST FOR CHANGE. BRINGING IT TO HIM AS STRAIGHT, AS STRAIGHT AS IT CAN POSSIBLY COME.

    http://lnkd.in/bcvvAxe

  8. Ruththella White says:

    JUST A WARNING speaking out will get you hurt, attacked, and killed. nobody will have your back and the brained washed blacks are helping racist whites wipe you out. I am telling you from personal experience. did they shut me up. NOPE.

  9. Ruththella White says:

    Paul Mooney telling it like it is.

  10. Paul Lewis says:

    Ruththella White – I'm just blessed that many good people before me, fought and die for you and I to be even able to have this dialogue.

    This is something you may remember in one of your school lessons – peep it.

    Like anybody, I would like to live – a long life; longevity has its place. But I'm not concerned about that now. I just want to do God's will. And He's allowed me to go up to the mountain. And I've looked over. And I've seen the Promised Land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people, will get to the Promised Land. So I'm happy, tonight. I'm not worried about anything. I'm not fearing any man. Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord.[1]

    Reference: Martin Luther King, Jr. (April 3, 1968). "I've Been to the Mountaintop"

  11. Tyson Briggs says:

    Well put sir, I love your tact and appreciate your viewpoint on the matter!

  12. At least you're not racist.

  13. Matt Edgin says:

    When you're right, you're right. And Paul as usual is right.

  14. Mike Johnson says:

    PREACH Mr. Mooney!!!

  15. L.a. Anderson says:

    Truth…unadulterated!!!

  16. Geoff Taylor says:

    So black people hating on Jews and Asians for instance…not racist….I see…

  17. Askari Ali says:

    No, Geoff. It's just hatred. Do you not comprehend the meaning of racism after viewing this video?

  18. Geoff Taylor says:

    Askari Ali Yes it is, or to give it it's full title, Race Hatred. I didn't need this video to know the meaning of racism. Power is one aspect of it. Revulsion and blind hatred is another.

  19. Askari Ali says:

    Geoff Taylor, power is the aspect that MOST impacts those who are oppressed by racism. Please cite where Blacks have created laws criminalizing being Jewish or Asian. How have Blacks prevented their advancement or destroyed their culture? For the record, Jewish is a religion not an ethnicity.

  20. Rob Kanous says:

    rac·ism
    ˈrāˌsizəm/
    noun
    noun: racism

    the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
    prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

    So this is a racist thread: you are basically saying that all white people are bigots…

  21. Rob Kanous says:

    Just because one comedian says that only whites are racist, doesn't make it true. Its a racist statement to say that all caucasians have a fair shake in America, and its also racist to say that blacks in America have no laws and programs in place to aid in their life. As with ANY OTHER heritage

  22. Dave McKenna says:

    He defines racism as having control over other people's lives, I agree with that. I was pulled off my bike and beaten by a group of teenagers because of my white skin. I live in fear now in my own neighborhood because this was not an isolated incident. My neighborhood is about 50/50 African American/white. That's a lot of control over me, to the degree that I may just move on. I don't disagree at all with the points he's making and of course the white majority doesn't have to live with this BS but making a blanket statement that so and so can't hate is just not accurate. Most accusations of 'reverse racism' are uninformed and stupid and should be addressed but there are exceptions.

  23. He ends with a 'black Anglo-Saxon" because they 'think white?" I think it's racist to believe that only white people can be racist.

  24. Kahanyah Levi says:

    The word racist can apply to anyone irrespective of race. By definition a racist is someone who believes one race is superior to another. A racist, necessarily, does not have to project a racist view onto others. If you impose a racist view then are you engaging in "racism." It is not outside the realm of possibility that a black person could believe he or she is superior to, for example, an Asian or Latino. However, as a group, blacks do not have the institutional means to impose racist views on society. Therefore, they cannot be guilty of racism. I think, as a form of retribution against Whites, Paul wants blacks to have the social right to hold racist views without being subjected to the moral condemnation of such sentiments.

  25. Kahanyah Levi says:

    A lot of people are reactionary and are not thinking through what they and Paul propose. They want to revise the definition of words to fit their own social reality.

  26. I hear this brother and I just want to weep.

    I don't know which is more tragic, his comments or the large number of my people who applaud his comments. To say that blacks can't be racists is tantamount to saying that blacks will always be victims.

    Buy a dictionary, Mr. Mooney….seriously!

    …oh, and buy a book on Logic while you are at it. smh!

    You're feeble attempt at using "murder" as a comparison to Racism is embarrassing……..just, embarrassing! By your own argument, Donald Sterling would not be a racist because he hasn’t actually “done” anything racially oppressive. Whites who call our President a “monkey” are NOT racists because they haven’t passed any laws that subjugate him. When black legislators help draft and pass laws that give preference to black applicants over equally qualified whites, that, by Mr. Mooney’s definition, WOULD….BE…..RACISM. But you know he does not see it that way.

    Too many of my people are talking big but saying nothing. Then we wonder why white America won’t take us seriously??!!!

  27. I hear this brother and I just want to weep.

    I don't know which is more tragic, his comments or the large number of my people who applaud his comments. To say that blacks can't be racists is tantamount to saying that blacks will always be victims.

    Buy a dictionary, Mr. Mooney….seriously!

    …oh, and buy a book on Logic while you are at it. smh!

    You're feeble attempt at using "murder" as a comparison to Racism is embarrassing……..just, embarrassing! By your own argument, Donald Sterling would not be a racist because he hasn’t actually “done” anything racially oppressive. Whites who call our President a “monkey” are NOT racists because they haven’t passed any laws that subjugate him. When black legislators help draft and pass laws that give preference to black applicants over equally qualified whites, that, by Mr. Mooney’s definition, WOULD….BE…..RACISM. But you know he does not see it that way.

    Too many of my people are talking big but saying nothing. Then we wonder why white America won’t take us seriously??!!!

  28. Brian Batie says:

    Uhh Darren, Mooney's allegory is entirely apropos. Sterling has indeed done things racially oppressive, his discrimination suits are public record. Your implication that he has done nothing racist is a denial that begs the question why you feel you should ignore and thus passively defend such. Black legislators have never helped pass laws giving preference to black applicants, because there has never been such laws ever enacted.
    White people are hard-wired not to "take anyone seriously". ask the so-called "Indians", the Irish, the Italians, and the Jews, all have had their day as victims of discrimination from White people, even though they (except for most "Indians) consider themselves to be White.
    I don't care that White people cannot take me seriously. It is only a fool who continues to beg for that which will not be given.
    What White racists will do is continue to lose their influence over the socio-political discourse in America, there is nothing they can do about it.
    Black wariness of a proven hostile society is not victim mentality, nor is it racism. It is recognizing who those are who are antithetical to our humanity.

  29. Tariq Nasir says:

    Hey Darren take that white dick out ya mouth.

    Donald sterling was sued by the US Federal government for racially discriminatory housing practices.

    http://www.thenation.com/blog/179551/donald-sterling-slumlord-billionaire

    As sports columnist Bomani Jones wrote, “Though Sterling has no problem paying black people millions of dollars to play basketball, the feds allege that he refused to rent apartments in Beverly Hills and Koreatown to black people and people with children. Talk about strange. A man notoriously concerned with profit maximization refuses to take money from those willing to shell it out to live in the most overrated, overpriced neighborhood in Southern California? That same man, who gives black men tens of millions of dollars every year, refuses to take a few thousand a month from folks who would like to crash in one of his buildings for a while? You gotta love racism, the only force in the world powerful enough to interfere with money-making.

  30. Tariq Nasir says:

    Hey Darren take that white dick out ya mouth.

    Donald sterling was sued by the US Federal government for racially discriminatory housing practices.

    http://www.thenation.com/blog/179551/donald-sterling-slumlord-billionaire

    As sports columnist Bomani Jones wrote, “Though Sterling has no problem paying black people millions of dollars to play basketball, the feds allege that he refused to rent apartments in Beverly Hills and Koreatown to black people and people with children. Talk about strange. A man notoriously concerned with profit maximization refuses to take money from those willing to shell it out to live in the most overrated, overpriced neighborhood in Southern California? That same man, who gives black men tens of millions of dollars every year, refuses to take a few thousand a month from folks who would like to crash in one of his buildings for a while? You gotta love racism, the only force in the world powerful enough to interfere with money-making.

  31. Stuntin Nmypimppumps says:

    rac·ism [rey-siz-uhm]
    noun
    1.
    a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
    2.
    a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
    3.
    hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
    racism. (n.d.). Dictionary.com Unabridged. Retrieved July 09, 2014, from Dictionary.com website: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism

    Blacks can be PREJUDICE, but we, by definition, can not be racist unless they are in positions of power. Which statistically speaking, it can rarely occurs. In fact, feel free to locate any legislation that primarily affects only Caucasians previously or current. I would wait but I'm busy living. I really wish people would use words in their correct context. It's interesting how 20 years ago, prejudice would've been used in place of racist, but I guess it "hurts" more when someone calls you racist.

  32. Kyle Morse-Bey says:

    Rob Kanous Race… A competition to a finish line. What finish line? The control of the earth's resources; especially the "human resources" i.e. slaves.

  33. Stuntin Nmypimppumps says:

    Geoff Taylor Clearly you don't know the definition… YOUR WELCOME

    rac·ism [rey-siz-uhm]
    noun
    1.
    a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
    2.
    a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
    3.
    hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
    racism. (n.d.). Dictionary.com Unabridged. Retrieved July 09, 2014, from Dictionary.com website: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism

  34. Stuntin Nmypimppumps says:

    rac·ism [rey-siz-uhm]
    noun
    1.
    a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
    2.
    a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
    3.
    hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
    racism. (n.d.). Dictionary.com Unabridged. Retrieved July 09, 2014, from Dictionary.com website: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism

  35. Rob Kanous says:

    Im not trying to argue, Im just saying that repropogating racism, isn't the answer to racism. Ive got nothing against any race, creed, heritage, or belief system. Everyone is allowed to believe any way they want. Im just here to tell you that not all white ppl are racist, and not only white ppl are racist. Racists, just like kind caring individuals; come in all colors, and from all walks of life. The fact that some ppl label others, for whatever reason, as being better or worse than anyone else, is just plain bullshit: no matter what background you come from. God bless, all

  36. Rob Kanous says:

    Kyle Morse-Bey thats ridiculous, Ive never owned slaves… Nor do i own any other natural resources… If were talking about supremacy of a race, Im way behind the curve too. Its not about color control anymore, its about power control. Theres plenty of non-white ppl keeping the power out of OUR hands too.

  37. Kyle Morse-Bey says:

    "1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
    2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination."

    Who constructed those things?

    The thread is not "racist". No one is saying that Europeans are inferior.

  38. I respect that Paul Mooney expresses his true feelings. However, I mostly disagree with him; and I think his line of thinking on racial relations is toxic. One definition in the dictionary states that racism is "racial prejudice or discrimination"(Merriam-Webster). I have spoken with many people of various races with profound dislike for those of other races which satisfies this definition of racism. Modern racism is not confined to institutional practice.

    The most disturbing notion is the generalization of subjecting all white people as being the same. Myriads of white people fought and died for the Union, killing their brothers in the South and ultimately ending the institution of slavery in America. Some young white college students voluntarily traveled to the Deep South (my home region), knew the deadly risks, and still fought alongside blacks during the Civil Rights Movement. Some of them were injured and even died with us. Droves of white people helped elect the first black president of the US over his white opponent. People should be judged individually by their own merits, regardless of color or creed.

    Yes, the African-American history is melancholy; but the only way to move our people forward is to remember that our ancestors died to give us the opportunity to live better lives than they did and the opportunity succeed in our country, the USA. The only way to do this is to keep a progressive mindset, hold ourselves accountable, and become educated and strive for the stars. Our idols were formerly Dr. King, Fredrick Douglass, Sam Cooke, Madam C.J. Walker, W.E.B. Dubois. Now, they're Lil' Wayne, Nicki Minaj, Kanye West, Diddy, and Paul Mooney. We need to start fixing the pressing issues facing our communities today like poverty, education, and health problems that will empower us and tap into the vast potential our people have. Education->Higher Value->Better jobs->Higher incomes->Better Circumstances->Happier Lives

  39. Stuntin Nmypimppumps I know the definition, it is not being applied correctly here.

    Let me ask this: if I say that all criminals are black and that any white (or other race) that commits a crime is acting 'black'… is that not racist?

    There was a study done in Atlanta because around 80% of the people in jail there were minorities. The police are mostly minority, the judges mostly minorities, and the study found that it wasn't racism, but that minorities were committing around 87% of the crimes and a larger number of them were getting off due to overpopulation and fear of 'racism'. So they determined it was reverse racism (which according to your definition, doesn't exist, I'm sure).

  40. Brian Batie

    Ok., point taken on the Sterling issue. I was not aware of some of the background. Jim Crow laws were implemented not-so-much against blacks but against white merchants who were willing to overlook skin color to make a buck.

    But my point still stands. To say that Blacks can't, by definition be racist is silly.

    Mooney's definition relegates us to permanent victim status since we will always be numerical minorities. Uh, sorry, I am nobody's victim.

    I'll concede my first eample, what about my two other examples; would that be racism?

  41. Tariq Nasir
    >>Hey Darren take that white dick out ya mouth.<<

    I couldn't possibly contend with such overwhelming intellect as exemplified by your opening comment. Since Brian has made the same basic point I'll reply to him. Maybe one day we'll obtain the language skills that you possess and be able to converse at your level.

  42. Brian Batie says:

    Darren J Butler You either misunderstand, or ignore the point made by Mr. Mooney when you extrapolate that "Whites who call our President a “monkey” are NOT racists because they haven’t passed any laws that subjugate him, (etc)…"
    It is the historical (and largely inaccurate) association, by whites, of monkeys with continental Africa that whites have used for centuries to de-humanize people, as a rationale for subjugation, that is a part of racism.
    Do you posit that laws that resulted in the subjugation of millions of humans, many of which are still on the books, were not enacted by a white-majority legislative body, and are not still supported by white racists?
    Just what is it you think the so-called "conservatives" are trying to conserve?
    Do you posit that right wing politicians don't use racism as a rallying cry, and those who vote for them do so because they support racism?
    Do you posit that the current practice of gerrymandering has any other purpose than to deny voting power to non-white populations?
    As for your statement about "…black legislators help draft and pass laws that give preference to black applicants over equally qualified whites, …" I offer this allegory, after pointing out that no such law has ever existed, rather, laws have been passed that allow black people to redress grievances relating to equal opportunity.
    Now to the allegory.
    If society is likened to a balance scale, where one side has been systematically given an inordinate amount of gold, while the other side has been denied, to the point that the balance is close to tipping over, and harming all, how would you re-balance the scale, or do you posit that the scale should remain unbalanced?
    When American society's long, undeniable history of hiring whites over equally-or-better qualified blacks has created an economically unbalanced society, where black people still earn 77 cents for every dollar earned by equally qualified white people, and any rational person knows that such continuing imbalances will ultimately cause the collapse of society.
    How otherwise do you propose the imbalances be rectified?
    A related allegory, a doctor, and a knife-wielding mugger both cut people, but their contexts are different, thus one is good, the other bad. Affirmative action is the doctor, the opponents are the mugger.

  43. Paul Mooney doesn't have revulsion and blind hatred for white people as a whole. He he can't stand people who treat him less than the grown ass, educated, MAN that he is and I don't blame him. White people don't do enough to challenge the negative, racist, and INCORRECT stereotypes we hold about black folks which in our head justifies us reacting differently to black people than we do whites. And that is what Mr. Mooney is trying to point out.

  44. Geoff Taylor says:

    Stuntin Nmypimppumps You probably mean 'YOU'RE WELCOME', You're welcome.

  45. Justin Conceivable says:

    Interesting! Now, if Paul's theory is 100 % correct, it would mean that it would be impossible for a black person who kills a white person for being white (and makes it known by using racial epithets) to be driven by racism. He only focuses on the institutionalization of racism, and not this multi-faceted hate-driven attitude that may or may not always drive people to action. Race-hate is racism whether I'm able to create a law to support it or not.

  46. Justin Conceivable says:

    Interesting! Now, if Paul's theory is 100 % correct, it would mean that it would be impossible for a black person who kills a white person for being white (and makes it known by using racial epithets) to be driven by racism. He only focuses on the institutionalization of racism, and not this multi-faceted hate-driven attitude that may or may not always drive people to action. Race-hate is racism whether I'm able to create a law to support it or not.

  47. Yemi Mshelia says:

    Unfortunately it is true

  48. Yemi Mshelia says:

    Unfortunately it is true

  49. Sgtrock Davis says:

    this guy is just other sheep and brain wash max won t tell our people the truth about that bible he brain wash them every sunday where do he think his bible came from wake up preacher find out the origin of your bible

  50. Sgtrock Davis says:

    you are wrong my brother racism people with power and control of other we do not make the laws and we do not control anything just fact

  51. Brian Batie says:

    You obviously didn't listen to the part where he says it is a practice, rather than just words. in your scenario, he would indeed be a racist, according to Mr. Mooney. But historically, who has the worse record in that regard? Historically who has had the law biased in their favor in that regard? Historically, and even currently, who consistently resists any efforts to eliminate such bias, whether it be by denial that it exists, or by stereotypical justification for continuing the practice?
    Race hate is nothing without action, bias in regard to how one interacts with people is real. Words are just words. Hate me in the privacy of your own home, or among your like-minded friends, that is simple ignorance and prejudice, but once your actions, votes, etcetera affect me in a real way, then it becomes racism.

  52. Brian Batie says:

    You obviously didn't listen to the part where he says it is a practice, rather than just words. in your scenario, he would indeed be a racist, according to Mr. Mooney. But historically, who has the worse record in that regard? Historically who has had the law biased in their favor in that regard? Historically, and even currently, who consistently resists any efforts to eliminate such bias, whether it be by denial that it exists, or by stereotypical justification for continuing the practice?
    Race hate is nothing without action, bias in regard to how one interacts with people is real. Words are just words. Hate me in the privacy of your own home, or among your like-minded friends, that is simple ignorance and prejudice, but once your actions, votes, etcetera affect me in a real way, then it becomes racism.

  53. Justin Conceivable says:

    Brian Batie Yep, I heard him say that in the clip.

  54. Aw Shade says:

    Darren, you are apparently one of those brainwashed negroes Mooney talks about. You need to get a dictionary. Look up racism, prejudice and bigotry.

  55. Brittanico Rios says:

    He's got to be the most conscious homosexual black dude I've ever heard or heard of, wow, but he be so on point though, can't front on that!

  56. Sgtrock Davis says:

    what you don t get is he talking about white people in power no you and the same study that you are talking about come from white people white do blue collar crime and mass murder and bombing ie okc and the atlanta bombing we all can be prejudice but only people with power can be racist who has the power the white man and how he get it by killing other people check out your history this country was made off the backs of slaves and stealing native american land this is a white world even overseas and that fact

  57. So, then when I was a kid going to a community pool with a friend and we were informed by two much older black guys that the pool wasn't for our kind, punched in our faces, and told if we didn't bring money to them the next day we'd get hurt bad, that wasn't racism?

    Well, if being bullied out of a taxpayer funded center, assaulted, threatened, and extorted solely because of my race isn't racism, then perhaps someone would like to let me know what it was!

  58. So, then when I was a kid going to a community pool with a friend and we were informed by two much older black guys that the pool wasn't for our kind, punched in our faces, and told if we didn't bring money to them the next day we'd get hurt bad, that wasn't racism?

    Well, if being bullied out of a taxpayer funded center, assaulted, threatened, and extorted solely because of my race isn't racism, then perhaps someone would like to let me know what it was!

  59. Jamel Dagher says:

    Sgtrock Davis You are correct in that the definition you describe is racism's more traditional meaning. However, words are defined by society; and we have come to accept racism in today's society as Merriam-Webster puts it: "racial prejudice or discrimination." Racial prejudice does not require the need for enforcement of discriminatory laws on a sect of the population. Much prejudice (racism) takes place in the minds and sentiments of people.

  60. Jamel Dagher says:

    Sgtrock Davis You are correct in that the definition you describe is racism's more traditional meaning. However, words are defined by society; and we have come to accept racism in today's society as Merriam-Webster puts it: "racial prejudice or discrimination." Racial prejudice does not require the need for enforcement of discriminatory laws on a sect of the population. Much prejudice (racism) takes place in the minds and sentiments of people.

  61. Sgtrock Davis says:

    Jamel Dagher i know what you are saying is truth iam just saying back in time and still today there is a mine game being played and it on many of us iam not talking about the dictionary iam talking about history and why we find ourselves in the predicament we are in it all by design my brother and until we understand this as a whole we can t move forward and i must ask you i did this mind set get here my brother you are a very intelligent man

  62. Jamel Dagher says:

    Sgtrock Davis Thank you man. I was born in Arkansas and raised in Mississippi. I was fortunate enough to have been born to a good family that provided me all of the resources I needed to succeed. My mother and father set high expectations for me and taught me the value of hard work. I am more conservative in my belief that hard work will 99.9% allow you to reach your most ambitious goals. I don't find value in making excuses and blaming others for hindrances to my success. I am realist and understand life is not fair. Life is what you make it, about weathering the storms and fighting to live the best life possible.

    I have heard too many of our people using the race card. I grew up in the "most racist state" in the country; however, I was elected student council president of my high school that was majority white, was adopted like a son by both whites and blacks in the community, and never had 1 negative racial encounter with white people my whole upbringing. Of course, I am not naive to believing MS and the nation don't have racists; but they are in the minority (even in MS) and usually part of the old, dying out baby boomer generation who grew up in the heat of the CR Movement and Jim Crow. I have beaten white people in school and competing for high powered internships. It's when you look for racism that you will usually find it. The African-American problem is complex; but we MUST first change the attitude of our community to value education, respect ourselves and our women, respect one another, and work extremely hard if we want to see significant progress in our communities.

    I have heard too many of our people using the race card. In many cases, it serves as an excuse justifying why we can't attain the lifestyle we desire. We have to fight for better lives instead of waiting for someone to hand us a free pass because the pass is simply not coming. The thing that made Dr. King the most renowned and respected CR leader is that he understood something many other leaders didn't. He never mentioned he wanted civil rights for blacks; he stated it needs to be everyone. "Not to be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." There are plenty of people in every race who have great character and live with good intentions, regardless of a skin color. We have to provide our own reconciliation through political influence, social independence, and, most importantly, desire for education and knowledge.
    United Negro College Fund: A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

  63. Sgtrock Davis says:

    Jamel Dagher that good for you but you are a small percentage of blacks who have made it ido not have anything against anyone we are in a system made by white people for white people but as soon as one of us make it we forget most don t make it because of the corrupt system the find themselves in you was bless to have good parents we help bake the pie in this country and we are still getting only the crust of the pie and being happy to get it go into the inter city and see what kind of schools there are how some can t get funded alot of the kids get no food the is happening right now i work hard all my life and try my best to help my people all the time it a up hill battle all the time iam glad you made it but i look at the big picture we need alot of help maybe a man like you can help the kids in your community get at the top like you i will be showing you so things in this system that was put in place to keep us in place iam proud to see a young man like you that found your way out

  64. Farntella Graham says:

    Rob Kanous you do not know what you are talking about.

  65. Farntella Graham says:

    Rob Kanous you do not know what you are talking about.

  66. Farntella Graham says:

    white people like to ask us how racism feels to us. when are we going to start asking white people how it feels to practice race hatred on black people? when are we going to start probing and analyzing the white psychy that believes in white racia superiority and black inferiorty?

  67. Farntella Graham says:

    white europeans, who practice the hebrew religion are the ones who financed the enslavement of black people for economic exploitation. that is not reason enough for you, mr. taylor? not to mention that they took control of america after the assassinations in the sixties and we benefited a few short years before the door was again closed on us.

  68. Geoff Taylor says:

    Farntella Graham I was wondering when anti-semitism would rear it's ugly but depressingly predictable head…and here it is.
    Here's the thing – racism doesn't have to involve white people – take a look at India,.but then that wouldn't serve your argument too well would it?. Here's another – this guy is a stand-up comedian, not Socrates. Get a life.

  69. Farntella Graham says:

    Geoff Taylor he mentioned black people who have a white mind? people in india who think as you say, are the example of the mind set mooney mentions: the "black anglo-saxon". there are plenty of them out there amonst all the races.

  70. Rob Kanous says:

    I don't know what I'm talking about because, what? I'm not black? That's racist… Dumbass black supremacists… Get over it…

  71. Christoverre Kohler says:

    Askari Ali The clip is entitled as being about "Anti-Africanism in America". What is "African"? A "race"? A "religion"? Or an "ethnicity"? Or a "location"? And "American"?

    Buncha' word play mixed up to justify racist attitudes in opposition to other racist attitudes. And "speaking out" to influence other people is "a practice" and an "action" too.

  72. Stuntin Nmypimppumps says:

    Michael Lindstrom
    Unfortunately, statistically speaking what you stated could be proven as true but then that would be a truly ignorant statement…just as saying a minority without true power can weld racism upon a majority who happens to govern. No offense but your privilege is blinding you to reality and causing you to feel threatened. Based on your next argument, I have reason to believe you skipped American Civics in high school & American Government in college. Who creates statues, legislation? Certainly not the majority of the 13% of the population that identifies with being Afro Amer. While there can be some local municipality legislation influenced by Blks due to voter demographics within a district, State Judges do not create law but interpret law, therefore racism can not occur with those individuals as you would be hard pressed in any state to find an all Black state legislation. However prejudice can occur. Newsflash: African Americans make up 13% of the general US population, yet they constitute 28% of all arrests, 40% of all inmates held in prisons and jails, and 42% of the population on death row (http://www.nccdglobal.org/sites/default/files/publication_pdf/created-equal.pdf)

    Please cite your study and/or provide your points of reference to prove your claim as acquittals & dismissals of crimes don't happen due to prison over crowding or racism. They do occur when the case is flimsy or convolution is in play.

  73. Christoverre Kohler says:

    Geoff Taylor People appear to be mistaking the mere presence of three definitions to the word "racism" as additive, rather than optional. The "systemic" #2 definition exists, but in English that doesn't mean that it "must always" be a factor along with the other two definitions. That's either just flat wrong use of the word, or it's not English so it's inappropriate to pretend that English dictionaries are the "authoritative" basis for the assertion, or it's an attempt to change the meaning/use of the word.

    Someone else has done similarly in these comments, trying to assert that "white people" do not include "Irish", for instance. And that while "blacks" can somehow "think white" that isn't a racist idea, because apparently "thinking" isn't "a practice" or a "law"?

  74. Geoff Taylor says:

    Christoverre Kohler In keeping with the academic level of debate established here, we should maybe ask Jerry Seinfeld what his own take is on things?

  75. Farntella Graham says:

    Geoff Taylor won't open it. you might infect my computer with lies.

  76. Christoverre Kohler says:

    Sgtrock Davis "Who" did "most" of something is only a comparative track record. "History" actually goes back a lot longer than just the 200 years of this country. It goes back many thousands of years. "Black history" includes the Egyptians? They kept slaves, and proclaimed rights and laws to do so, being people of other races/ethnicity. And, in fact, the reason why some "white people" were even ABLE to go to Africa and buy slaves there, was because People of Color had been enslaving other People of Color there LONG before any "white people" had gotten there yet.

    History is filled with different peoples raiding and "conquering" others in many places and times. To pretend that ONLY some certain "white people" have just isn't true. What's true is that eventually some began to succeed more.

    And to the extent that people really don't understand just who is succeeding at dominance now, and just how they continue to actually do it (including feeding fuels to the fire of racial alienations – divide and conquer) they will KEEP succeeding at it, too.

  77. Geoff Taylor says:

    Farntella Graham You sound like an old rap tune from the 80's.

  78. Farntella Graham says:

    Darren J Butler we are victims of a vicious system but we are not permanent victims. our deliverance is near darren. no lie can live forever. you think we want to be victims? when the power dynamics change, we will no longer be the victims and our enemies will be our footstool.

  79. Stuntin Nmypimppumps At least you sounded intelligent with your statements, the previous two, just butt hurt from recent history (the last couple hundred years) as pointed out by Christoverre Kohler,

    A few overlooked things… I have experienced racism… I've walked into jobs, been interviewed by 4-5 black people and been informed that I "didn't have what it takes to work with them in my field:. I'm sorry, I was far more qualified than the applicants they hired (knew them personally)… but I was white, in Atlanta, trying to be a counselor in a mostly black community. So no one can tell me I don't know what racism feels like. My friend apologized to me for how I was treated.

    You are also forgetting that it is those same 'racists in power' that freed slaves and there are countless white people doing what they can to prevent and avoid racism.

    Do I know racism is still around? yeah…. I also know there's a lot of other problems int he world still around. But it is up to each individual to do what they can to correct the problems of the world… crying because you feel you've been treated differently because of something just hurts yourself… get yourself up and move on… I did and always will.

    I have tried in the past to find the particular study, unsuccessfully, and I apologize for that. But would you concede that more crime is committed in black neighborhoods?

    Don't worry, I looked it up for you. " Crime rates are positively correlated (zero-order) with the percentage of blacks in a neighborhood, so these perceptions are in part
    reflection of an objective reality."

    https://www.princeton.edu/~pager/ajs_quillian&pager.pdf

    I know, I know, bunch of white people probably did the math… so you may not believe it.

    At least it does say that white (and hispanics) overestimate and exaggerate their perceptions of crime rates in black neighborhoods. But the crime rates are higher, even though there are usually more police posted and patrolling the areas, and therefor more blacks can get caught.

  80. Jamel Dagher says:

    Sgtrock Davis You are right, I have been highly blessed and favored. That is why I feel so convicted about helping those in our community to live a similar life to the way I did. We first have to be honest with ourselves and acknowledge many aspects of modern African-American culture are poisoning our progression towards prosperity. We idolize rappers who call our women horrible names, we tend to glorify sports stars and entertainers over successful black CEO's, doctors, and professionals, our people kill each other for wearing different colors and hate one another (our own black brethren) for being a member of rival gang, and we have this general attitude of "Imma get mine" over being selfless and helping lift each other up. We must respect ourselves before any other race takes us seriously. We use to fight and die to get a decent education seven when we were dirt poor before and during the Civil Rights era. Now our poor have more than we've ever had, and many of us hate school, thinking it is useless and lame. My parents grew up very poor. My grandma had a fourth grade education and my grandpa a second grade education. My mother and they lived on the fields of Arkansas. Instead of blaming her circumstances for why she couldn't move up from her small house and shady farm in the rural, segregationist Arkansas delta, seeing her parents motivated my mom and her sisters to work hard in school and go to college. Now she is in the middle class and has a masters degree. She and my dad use to tell me the only thing holding you back is yourself. We have to radically change the psyche of our community before we can be respected and begin to see making profound strides.

  81. Sgtrock Davis says:

    Michael Lindstrom here are the numbers atlanta 54.0 blacks 38.4 whites 5.2 hispanic 3.1 asian the more people the more crime

  82. Sgtrock Davis says:

    Christoverre Kohler i know this about the egyptian i was just talking about the usa and yes blacks had slaves but you forget to mention that as they work off their debt that they was release by the ones holding them with a cow and food they help grow

  83. Sgtrock Davis says:

    Michael Lindstrom you hurt with the crap that you are trying to sell by your name you are of swedish descent you are the real european you will never understand but that is fine you have a good life

  84. Christoverre Kohler says:

    Sgtrock Davis No, I didn't "forget to mention" that, because that is NOT true in all or even most cases. For hundreds of years BEFORE "white people" got to and began to participate in the slave trade (permanent slaves) it had been going on in Africa among "people of color". And did NOT begin with any "white people" there.

    This is all in response to your attempt to charge "white people" as though the making, keeping and exploiting of slaves, and in particular "black" slaves, is either a unique "white" practice, or originated from "white" people, and trying to pose some "historical" precedent or "most". These aren't true.

    And neither is the comedian's false definition of the word and attempt a mere semantical parlor trick to justify his own blatantly, truly racist remarks… however much we know and understand his outrage over what actual racism he does suffer, personally.

    I spent a couple of years working at the "black community newspaper" in Portland, OR and lived and worked in "the hood" in East Oakland for a couple of years, too. Both times I was a VERY small minority and subject to pretty much stereotypical, blatant racism myself. I know EXACTLY what it's like, how it feels, how it works, etc.

    And, no, I am NOT going to just silently, passively go along with it nor as used against ANY race, including when it's done by and comes from Mr. Mooney

  85. “It is not power that corrupts but fear. Fear of losing power corrupts those who wield it and fear of the scourge of power corrupts those who are subject to it.”
    ― Aung San Suu Kyi, Freedom from Fear

    Paul Moony was very clear, and for those black folks who don't understand, it's because you don't want to understand because you're scared. And, it's obvious why white folks are playing ignorant, being deceptive and twisting the definition of racism/white supremacy. It's to deflect from their system of oppression to create confusion and among their victims to maintain white supremacy.

  86. Jamel Dagher says:

    Sgtrock Davis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCqvw08AQuE

    If you find some time Sgtrock, check out this video. I think this guy has some very valid points, and it somewhat aligns with my position. Very real stuff from another brother living in the struggle.

  87. Sgtrock Davis says:

    Jamel Dagher ok

  88. Sgtrock Davis says:

    Michael Lindstrom why was the slave set free lindstrom to break the back of the south economy had not a thing to do how white concern about blacks it was the north who sent the blacks to the south it was the only way lincoln could win the war

  89. Isys Casale says:

    He is not only talented but a well spoken and eloquent brotha who tell it like it is. 🙂

  90. Vern Risby says:

    Darren you talk like you are stupid..and an Uncle Tom

  91. Yvette Odom says:

    Darren J Butler you have got to be kidding. We can be prejudiced and can have white people but as Mr. Mooney said we don't have the POWER to deny white people anything. how can we be relegated to victim status unless we allow it and you must not get out much because on the world stage we are far from minorities. WE have been terrorized since we got of the boat and that is a fact as he said, it's the LAW. Give me a break it's not something we made up. I am so sick of folks like you with stockholm syndrome.

  92. Sgtrock Davis says:

    Christoverre Kohler it funny to me how the white man try to tell me about our history the one that he cut out and tried to hide

  93. Christoverre Kohler says:

    Sgtrock Davis "The white man" who did what? Which one was that? That's called condemning a person one way or another or regardless of what they personally do or not, due to resentment toward and lumping together of the entire race = "racism".

    Is that what "the black man" do here too? No, not all in these comments do that. You reveal yourself as one that does, and is racist. I know how that works, all too well.

  94. Sgtrock Davis says:

    Christoverre Kohler your so call founding fathers are you telling me that the white man is not running the usa who in power around the world i look at a white man when i pull money out of my pocket that power on mine body and soul

  95. Christoverre Kohler says:

    Sgtrock Davis "My Founding Fathers"? Yes, you continue to only use THE most simplistic "difference" between peoples: skin color – "White" or not. That IS "racism" yes.

    As my first post in this thread emphasized, reality is actually quite more complex than that – especially when it comes to just who actually is in or has "power", just where, why and how. From your posts here, I get the impression that you are intelligent and sensitive enough to have the capacity to grasp these things more meaningfully than to just keep cutting such lines and "groupings" of people by only the most simple "differences".

    For instance, is the U.S. President, oft credited as one of The Most Powerful persons in the world "black"? Generally, "the Black Community" has revelled that he, indeed, is. The reality is that he's half "white", and so could be regarded as being "white" every bit as much, eh? However, quite aside from all that relative stuff, he IS "Ruling Class" among all the other races that are members of that class, worldwide.

    Far more than just "color" or "race" is the more truly Powerful difference of Ism – Classism. And Fascism. Racial tensions and divisive struggles among and within the classes is one of several major ways that those in the truly powerful Ruling Classes use for one of the most basic of dominations – "Divide and Conquer".

    Perhaps consider these things more at times of your own choosing. I do not seek to "win" anything here. But I've had endured more than enough of your own racism directed at me, personally, in these exchanges and I will no longer. Be well.

  96. Sgtrock Davis says:

    Christoverre Kohler first of all i was not talking about you personally i don t know you and i have whites in my family and mix grandkids i have know hate in me

  97. Christoverre Kohler says:

    Sgtrock Davis – The discussion here began with an examination of merely definition(s) of the word "racist". The actual objective definition begins with and most basically is founded upon simply:

    "the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race"

    "Hate" was never an actual criteria for "racism", but is a more extreme form of it. Nevertheless, there have been those that try to emphasis ONLY most extreme forms of such things, which then too often are also used to actually generate more extreme forms, including more extreme forms of oppositions.

    All that you keep emphasizing to me, personally (because you have been responding to me as the individual I am and when you do you use the word "you" too), is the one point that you apparently are suffering from noticing that certain sub-groups within "white" people have, indeed, seriously, severely wronged a lot of "black" people. And that "white" people could seem to simply outnumber "black" people enough worldwide that you even broaden your own impression unrealistically to consider that as being the people "in power" and "everywhere".

    As a person most often considered by "colored" racists as a "white" man, what I know and they apparently don't (or resist admitting) is that withIN the so-called "white" race, there are actually several "races" and subdivisions which include those that have been or are every bit as discriminatory and prejudiced against one another as anyone might be toward one of the many different kinds of "persons of color". And that withIN the "color" races there are also discriminations and prejudices and persecutions, too.

    Yes. ALL of that has been going on a long time and in many ways among people, worldwide and throughout history. And still is. But, again, the most simplistic discernment stops at the simplest, most apparent difference: black/white. And that's just not realistically meaningful enough anymore, while it IS a most basic form of "racism", to the extent that any certain attributes are attempted to be assigned to everyone wholesale on that basis – by anyone.

    Look at Mr Anderson's response below, for example. He endorses Mr. Mooney's actual wrong "definition" for the word "racist" yet goes on to replace it with a more accurate "systemic" credited to just "white supremacy"… yet then loops back to only attempt a similar redefining of "racism" to supposedly "mean" only that, while expressing it all in rather racist terms of his own – seeming "justified" in doing so "because" of what he's accusing others… that "they" ("whites") DO "play games with the word 'racism'", but supposedly he and Mooney somehow therefore can't also be doing so… even as that IS the "game".

    Just whom even CAN be "racist" or not, even an entire race, according to whose definition of the word? Or is the topic "really" about something else, in act and fact?

  98. Stuntin Nmypimppumps Actually, there are far fewer African Americans than you would think. You are giving the statistics for black people (or people of color if you prefer)…. There are white African-Americans that would not be recognized in your statistics. I know, 2 of them went to my college and the black community threw a fit about 2 white guys that were actually naturalized citizens from Africa… because they weren't black.

  99. Sgtrock Davis I am so FAR from being Swedish that it's ridiculous… probably as much as you are removed from being African… I can't claim my heritage, what gives you the right to claim yours?

    BTW, my geneology has been traced back to Europe through many lines… none of which have been found to have owned anyone. So instead of blaming an entire race for your life, take pride and blame the individuals you've run into… and if it's a law… get it changed… I can't help what happened with a bunch of Europeans 200 years ago…. anymore than you can blame me for what they did. Breathe your freedom that was founded on the blood of similar white people. Or do us 'white people' not get ANY credit for anything good we do?

  100. Sgtrock Davis says:

    Michael Lindstrom first all iam an african my ancestry trace back to the mandinka group of people and proud of it and yes you are right some white did die iam sorry for that and i do give them credit for that all i said was the system that we are under is gear more for whites than any other race you go for a job you are prejudge before you sit down and it happen all the time and as far as voting we all know that that system is corrupt and by the way alot more black blood was spilled here in the usa oh and by the way i have whites in my family there no hate here

  101. Sgtrock Davis I can trace my ancestry down to the city my family name came from… I am not Swedish… that's my point. Heritage should only matter to you… it shouldn't be a thing… you are either American, or you are not American… Do you think the people that came over to America ever said… I can't wait to be a _____-American? No, they wanted to be American… period…

    The only 'heritage' I have is in my last name, and it is a family name, I don't consider it Swedish, I just know it came from there… never been there, my family has been here for over 7 generations… I know no one that speaks the language… much like you most likely, yet you insist on calling yourself African-American? Doesn't make sense. Africans are quite often offended by the term (I've known quite a few of them)…

    And as I said… I've known African-Americans… (real ones, born in Africa and took the test to become Americans)… and they were white…. and get this… black people were offended they were awarded African-American scholarships. So It's not necessarily me that is going through a misunderstanding… Africans don't like the idea of African-Americans… because they consider them Americans… Most African-Americans don't identify with Africa at all… and there are a lot of black people called African-American that aren't even from Africa…. ever. They are offended… I believe ya'll need to adopt the term American and become equals, finally… trying to be something that doesn't honestly exist doesn't bode well for the culture.

    Out of curiosity… how many Mandinkan's do you know? Are you in touch with? How much of their language and culture do you have? Just curious.

  102. Sgtrock Davis says:

    Michael Lindstrom just to let you know i have been there and iam learning the language and let be real the only real american here are the native american if you bring a seed to america and put it in the ground don t make that see a native your people invade this country mine well you know how we got here and the true name is not africa that the name the roman gave it from a general name sipio aficanus

  103. Dennis Adams says:

    Actually Rob, some of you aren't bigots. Obviously though, you're not one of them, so stop trying to hide behind them.

    But if you're going to keep doing this talking, while denying the obvious history of this nation, or at least ignoring it, then,,you're full of..something.

    So..do you want to have the conversation, because we can have it, plenty of people are having it..or do you just want to bullsheet?

  104. Dennis Adams says:

    Rob Kanous I've never been a slave either. But I certainly know from experience white power structured institutional racism.

  105. Dennis Adams says:

    Jamel Dagher you are and have been fortunate. But don't presume that because things went well for you, that everyone else is blessed, too.

    Some people know racism because they had no choice, it ran right up and sat on them, stepped on them, kicked them or put them in jail even though they were innocent.

    Since you have already allowed that life isn't fair, then you understand that someone can be caught in an unfortunate circumstance.

    What some white folk think of us largely has nothing to do with us..look how they treat the president of the United States of America. Did not he work hard, go to school, earn good grades, pull himself up by his bootstraps, etc? Does he have his pants pulled up? Hasn't he earned everything he ever got? Is he not polite, humble, reverent and articulate?

    I saw this quote earlier in this thread, and it sums it up for me;

    "Black wariness of a proven hostile society is not victim mentality, nor is it racism. It is recognizing who those are who are antithetical to our humanity."–Brian Batie

  106. Dennis Adams says:

    Michael Lindstrom not all of those caught are criminals, though. Plus, a great many police are racist, and lastly the entire justice system itself is stacked against black people to begin with anyway.

    We get neither the presumption of innocence or even the benefit of the doubt. Black=criminal, period. At least, that's the case you just made, while telling us how victimized you are by some black people.

    And I get it too, some blacks don't like or don't trust whites. I get it. I wonder though, how unreasonable that is..considering. No one has to like anyone anyway though, do they? No law can make Jim befriend John. Yes, prejudice is real..

    ..tell you what..when you have to riot, or repeatedly petition congress, or have to strike(or worse) to get your right to vote, or sit anywhere on the bus, or to rent a house in any neighborhood that you can afford, I'll be right there pulling for you.

    Or at least, I won't be opposing you, actively or otherwise.

    Deal?

  107. Dennis Adams says:

    Charlie Willock it's the little things.

  108. Dennis Adams says:

    Some might call that justice. Not me, but some..

  109. Dennis Adams says:

    Hahahaha..this 'white folk as victims of racism' thing is rooted in one thing and one thing only..disempowering the word, thereby muting the horror of the practice of racism, ultimately making the charge itself impotent.

    So then police brutality, discrimination in housing, unfair housing practices and racial slurs and death threats against the president of the United States of America can be seen as and carry the same weight as two teens bullying a 9 year old.

    The campaign seems to be working quite well, too.

  110. Sgtrock Davis says:

    Dennis Adams good job mr adams

  111. Sgtrock Davis says:

    Christoverre Kohler are you talking about obama the puppet shape by the white man please i find that funny this man have done nothing mr bush jr you need to get the book white privilege a white man telling the truth we need more like him

  112. Tony Cooper says:

    I know Paul is serious messenger and tell it's straight…but you have racism all shades in colors but when your deprived because of racism that too is all color and shades.

  113. Kenny Barnes says:

    *Sigh* Everybody is pulling up definitions to the word racism as if the dictionary isn't made by the very same racist (colonial system) Paul Mooney is talking about. Of course Webster's definition or any English, Dutch, Arab, Jewish, Portuguese definition is going to tell you what 'their' definition of the word is. Listen to what Paul just stated. We do not have the power to control other people's lives. We do not have the power to create laws that control other people. We don't even have the control to dictate what gets written in history books about our history prior to chattel enslavement. We darn sure don't control the curriculum at these schools. Even cities in America that have a majority black population have to get their curriculum from the state.

    Think for a second about the families and descendants of the families who participated in chattel slavery, and think about the wealth amounted. Now here's the kicker, how many peoples' of those families contribute to politics? How many peoples' of those families are currently in the highest positions of Government? How many peoples' of those families own banks and lend money to people and other governments? How many peoples' of those families own oil? How many peoples of those families became rich simply through inheritance off of my ancestors backs?

    In fact, show me anywhere in world history where a race of people were deemed non-human other than African people?

  114. Tiffany Juicypattie Shack says:

    Farntella Graham yeah its information about white/black slavery but funnily enough dosnt mention anything about the dehumanization of africans,it doesnt mention the thousands that died due to other africans throwng them overboard it doesnt mention the horrific scientific experiments that were done on women due to other africans viewing them as lewd sexual creatures,oh and it doesnt mention where africans looked at other africans skin color and then decided that because they were black they were sub human.But yeah im sure its totally reliable unbias and informative because its not like theres links to supremacist groups down the side…oh wait….

  115. Ziggy Hudson says:

    He's not funny, and he hates whitey……..

  116. Jamel Dagher i watch the statement the young man made he had some points but for him to not think that the system that we live in is not a white one then he needs to wake up because some blacks is making it means we all are wow it hard for a black contarctor to get a contract we have the highest unemployment the worst health care the highest rate of incarceration they are killing affirmative action state by state while at the same time closing alot of black schools in the inter citys moving black out of the citys and into the suburbs we can all make video but what is this young man doing to make it better we can do better but to said that the system that we are in is not a white one he needs to go read about all the road blocks that are out there just for people of color why do they have to keep amending our voting rights and . There was generations of brain washing going on with our people that is still going on today where do he think it came from you can look at our churches and see the white mans power still following a blue eye white man from a book he gave you just check out history and find out how you got that book

  117. NO, Darren J. Butler, you are the one who is talking loud and saying nothing! You've bought into the white hype. Just let me remind you that you and every single person of color is discriminated against DAILY. It is institutionalized hatred and it is hurting not only black people but white people as well. Something is terribly wrong with whites who like to see people on their knees while standing and grinning with their superior attitudes. To this end they are more the victim than we are. Hate is a powerful emotion that kills, physically and figuratively, so stop defending racism.

  118. Why make this argument? Don't be surprised if people call you an uncle tom. You aren't stupid by any means but you are IGNORANT!!!!

  119. well he's tellin the truth and this whole race things' getting so tiresome already some people just wont let it die smh.

  120. Shawn Gillespie says:

    Rob Kanous Hey thats all good,but Let me explain how the racist system that America created has given you advantages. First of all this was a discussion between black people on a comment that a black man made. Mr. Mooney was not the first person in America to speak on racism. Its been going on for centuries.Now everyday I see something outright racist posted by white people. What I don't see is white people like you who claim to not be racist telling them where they are wrong. The way I see it is if it doesn't bother you there is no problem, but you feel that you should step into the black discussion to tell us how to act and think. Now if these roles were reversed and I was on a white post trying to contradict what the white people were discussing I would be called every slur in the world. Racism is a system, and white people control and take advantage of that system. The simple fact that you are here telling a group of black people, who all have their own stories of discrimination and racism to forget what we have experienced and take your word on how things should be is an example of how white people created this racist system and are still trying to control it. There is this fb page called "WHITE PEOPLE" and many others go straighten them out, and when you get the white people that has been oppressing and holding black peole back for hundreds of years to cooperate with black folks I garantee we will welcome all of you with welcome hands.

  121. Jamel Dagher says:

    Dennis Adams I completely agree with you here Dennis: many of us are caught into some very unfortunate circumstances. That has nothing to do with color, but it is simple sociology that low income populations are plauged with poverty, heatlh problems, broken homes, etc. Any race that has been through what African-Americans have would be in the exact same circumstances we are in today.

    However, we have to devise solutions to address our problems today. Let's use history to remember, but we cannot use it to hold us back. Blaming whites will just hold us in our circumstances longer. We have to lift ourselves up because nobody is going to do it for us. I really blame our leaders in the black community for the reason the reason we are stuck in this victim-like state. I love our cultur more than the next guy, but we have a lot of toxic elements in our culture. Idolizing rappers who preach about guns, drugs, and violence is not helpful to our cause. Relying on athletic ability is not helpful because the vast majority of us are not special enough to get drafted in the NFL or NBA. We have to address our problems instead of pointing the finger. That's the only way we're going to see signicant progress.

    As for Obama, I believe his race actually works in his favor. Many politicians are much more warry of saying certain things without offending the large black constituency. I like Obama, but I disagree with many of his policies. Did you know black people are the only major racial group whose incomes have decreased as the others have increased under President Obama? We're poorer under Obama than we ever were under Bush. Obama's economic stimulus package: we lost $3 for every $1 spent. It was extremely inefficinet. History shows that the rise of the Tea Party was inevitable response for passing major federal social legislation with all Democrat vote in the House and Senate without one Republican vote. The same thing happened to FDR and his New Deal programs. The Republicans persecuted FDR. Politics is just dirty, and it always has been.

    As for Brian Batie, he's probably a low life person. I cannot even find him on the Google search engine. People will always have their opinions but you cannot blame a whole race for the beliefs of a few individuals. I attended Ole Miss (apparently the most racist school), but it was the best experience I've ever had in my life. The people there took me in like I was their child. Check out this video when the KKK came to protest at Ole Miss. It's empowering because even the majority Southern whites don't tolerate racism. There will always be racistis in ALL racial communities. People should be judged on an individual basis. I can't say Rachel Maddow is racist because Brian Baite shares his irrelevant opinion about black people. Check this out. Let me know what you think.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezkvRywf4vw

  122. Bianca Stoian says:

    ..your president is Obama, a black guy. What are you talking about? You make up things only to sound interesting and to cover the reality? Darren J Butler, in his comment say that "Too many of my people are talking big but saying nothing. Then we wonder why white America won’t take us seriously??!!! " and he is right…speak reality if you want to overcome your condition, and then people will look at you differently. When you make up things, you are looking like a black person, even if no one is racist around you…

  123. Tico Johnson says:

    ***** Paul is the real deal.

  124. Mikki Farmer says:

    Paul Mooney always tell it like it is. That's why is beloved among blacks or anyone who thinks.

  125. Brian Batie says:

    Darren J Butler Shouldn't we all overlook skin color to "make a buck"? You actually have a problem with that, to the point that you actually try to redefine Jim Crow as an attempt to be beneficial to Black people?! No, I think the real issue with which you have a problem is admitting that White racism against Black Americans runs through the US entire history. In fact, I have a suspicion that, in your use of the word "us" while voicing an opinion no sane Black person could possibly have, you are one of those trying to "pass for Black", as if that will somehow lend credibility to such outlandish implications as you make.

  126. Brian Batie says:

    Michael Lindstrom If you say that all criminals are black, you would first be telling a blatant non-truth. the rest of the sentence is thus rendered moot. Also, the stats you quote, as usual, don't take into account the racist nature of American infrastructure that has allowed racial discrimination against the Black population in terms of employment, capital access, pay, promotion, and all other socio-economic measures. When you cannot get a job, because a white ex-con is twice as likely to get the job for which you apply with a clean record, what do you think will be the cumulative effect on the Black segment of the populace? When those who do receive a miracle, and find a job, the pay is 77 cents for every dollar paid to a white worker doing the same job. Is it that such people as yourself imply that we should all just lie down and die off peacefully, because people like yourself and those for whom you vote fear us? Let me ask you, if you have a family, and you lose your job, and no one anywhere is hiring people of your ethnic heritage, will you simply roll over and die? what would you do to help your family survive?

  127. Darren J Butler The moment you said —–Jim Crow were implemented not-so-much against blacks but against white merchants who were willing to overlook skin color to make a buck. —– eliminated you from ever commenting on black issues I am not even going to ask that you look up the definition of racism.

  128. Vern Risby HE WILL NEVER BE AN UNCLE TOM…UNCLE TOM IS NOT WHO WE WERE MADE TO BELIEVE HE IS A HERO, SAMBO WAS THE ENEMY

  129. Mr. Mooney is absolutely correct.

  130. Chickade Ba says:

    Preach Paul Mooney. I challenge folk to be black for one day. Just one day.

  131. Is it white peoples fault for all the black on black crime as well??

  132. I think for one to be truly sympathetic with what Paul is stating, one must believe that racism comes form institutions and that institutions are responsible for our actions as they are what form us. At first I had a hard time understanding how a certain people couldn't be racist because of their race, and then it hit me- babies aren't born racist, there isn't anything in our genetic code that makes us manifest racism, so that means all of racism is something we learn.

    Racism is something you can get exposed to very easily because people in power have been very racist for a very long time and they control the institutions that perpetuate racism. People with money and power control everything from schools to news stations, from water supplies to tax breaks. Racism is a powerful and ugly foe.

    Defeating racism is a tall order, but not impossible. defeating it means organizing and leveraging resources for change, it means either reorganizing, rebuilding or even demolishing the institutions that oppress. Many times reaching these goals means voting, self educating, boycotting, protesting and spreading the word. The change is possible but much work must be done to get there.

  133. Kim Ackridge says:

    I love Paul Mooney….no f filter, I love it.

  134. So, I finally had a chance to review this video and he was so on point. Yes, black folks might say some racist things but being a racist has to do with power over another group. We simply don't have that power. However, he hit on something that has struck a cord in me. BLACK FOLKS when you work in the service industry know that just because a person looks like you does not give you the right to lack in the customer service department. It's your job to treat all customers equally. So don't get upset if that black person request your boss. It's you that needs to adjust your attitude, know your position, and complete the duties associated with that position based on your job description. I pull people to the side from time to time for a one on one if it's a mild situation, but many times I will simply request management. Race has never been a factor in that decision. Thats something you should know. We slap each other on the wrists way too much. It's time to start holding our own people accountable for certain things like poor behavior.

  135. Maurice i agree…. bottom line is too much hate in this world….. i try to be a good person daiky and color has no place with me… i like people for who they r not a skin tone

  136. And i have no pointy hood… i have more black friends then white….. i try everyday to help this world be better so alan dont come at me lik thst

  137. Paul Mooney is right. Racism is about power and control, one race having the power and control to prevent another race from making progress.

  138. Zamir Bhimji says:

    At a cursory glance, Paul Mooney makes a good point: which is that white people have more political power to exercise racist beliefs or protect white interests in the US. However, what he says is different and he contradicts his already poor argument at 2:25. Allow me to explain:

    1) Mooney claims racism is a practice, not a belief ("That's racism… a practice!"). Yet, somehow expression is not considered a practice for him, per his murder example: a murderer speaking murderous things is not a murderer, so a racist speaking racists things is not a racist, by his logic. Of course, this is wrong: if someone calls you a racial slur, that is in itself racists. One does not have to be lynched to experience racism.

    2) Mooney's opening claim is that he cannot be racist because he has no political power over anyone else's life since there are no laws that allow him to exercise his racism the way LA had laws barring interracial marriage. "White folks 'do,'" he says. they "make laws."
    Of course, in order to make a racist law like that, there would have to be racist people electing racist legislators to make racist laws. So, racism had to exist before laws were created to protect it. Just because Mooney doesn't have laws favoring his race does not mean he is immune to racism. Similarly, when the LA interracial marriage law was abolished, racism still existed-despite what the laws says.

    Of course, don't take my word for it. Mooney contradicts himself at 2:25 when he mentions a BLACK airline attendant SAID something RACIST to him. In that sentence alone, he showed us that racism is a belief, that it can be held by a black individual, and that it does not need to be an action based on a law.

    It would be better for him to say "The laws in the US favor the white race," not "white folks" are racist and "a black person can't be racist by definition." This, by definition, is wrong.

  139. We're afraid to take power and control for fear of whitefolks not accepting us!

  140. On my street we have Asians..blacks..whites..Germans..British..Mexicans…and…..nobody cares…and I live in Baltimore. If you are a good person you are cool. WTF is he talking about it's not the 60's. get a grip.

  141. And by the way you can vote..and if someone asks you.can I help you..they say that to white folks too. And the problem is….? and I have still to see that someone can't buy a house in any neighborhood..this is nonsense. I am a mature white woman if someone asks me can I help you I say..yea or nah…it's not about race it's about being civil. OMG…..horrors if someone is polite and……whatever.

  142. Peter Wilson says:

    Very true. Hate / racism a two edge sword.

  143. First of all I think Paul Mooney very much underrated and put on the back burner because he talks truth. He tells it like it is. I totally agree with the fact black people cannot be called racists for all the reasons Paul mentioned and more. However I will not say that all caucasians are racists. But 90% of them are and the ones that do not practise racism is subconsciously racists. That does not give away the fact that there are black people that are so brainwashed to think the same way the white man thinks of us and they do not know any better but to be racist or act racist against their own. Everyone of color needs to wake up.

  144. Johhen Allen says:

    You are so full of it…YOU MIGHT-AS-WELL BE A SEPTIC TANK.

  145. Johhen Allen says:

    Yeah. The CIA put the drugs in the Black communities, the guns are not registered to NO ONE that get arrested for them….AND WHITES ARE SO SCARED THAT SOMEONE BLACK IS GOING TO NOT NEED THEM. THAT WHAT RACISM IS ABOUT….OPPRESSING OTHER SO YOU CAN HAVE "PRIVILEGES".

  146. Clement Akuo says:

    Who wants to refute this? No one really can.

  147. Also Racism is any Race that express hatred to another culture just because their race….

  148. Falln Angels says:

    We are only looking at the leaves that has grown on the tree..

    The Root:
    The root of the problem is that the Caucasians has been fighting to survive for centuries. They understand that the darker skin people is the majority of this planet. They understand that if the darker skinned people of the world mixed with the white skinned people of the world they will become extinct. The world race would be of a darker skin.

    The Leaves:
    Caucasians has been oppressing the black/dark skinned/colored people from around the planet for centuries. This is done by the Caucasians making themselves God-like and making the lighter skinned people of all races believe they are better than the darker skinned people of that race, thus putting bad stereotypes of darker skinned people in the minds of ALL races around the planet. And yet no race can see this.

    There is a few things in the world that is universal and not limited just to these:
    1. Money
    2. Sex
    3. Darker skinned people at the bottom of the totem pole in ALL races.

    Today the Caucasians has gotten so powerful in controlling the planet that we do not even understand what is happening..They are killing us..we are killing us.. and countries governed by darker skinned people are in turmoil..At this point it is just a big game to them..the leaves will die and fall with the season, even some branches will be cut off, but the root will be rooted at its core. The Caucasian fighting not to become extinct by any means necessary. The question is how do you fight that type of passion at this stage of the game?

  149. Unfortunately , he is 99%. Right ….1% fixable…think about it first before you comment…lol

  150. Joseph W. Williamson what is your point? what do you mean by "any race". didn't you understand what mooney said? Black people do not have the POWER to be racist THRU THE MAKING OF LAWS AND SANCTIONS IMPOSED. Why do white people act dumb like they do not understand that?

  151. Mr. Mooney is in his assertion, absolutely correct. However, he is using semantics in the same way that "White Folks" are, in the manner that he described. What I'm saying is… it's true that "Blacks" cannot be "Racist" for the reasons he stated… but he knows that the question is being improperly asked. Racism is not Bigotry, and I'm sure that he is aware that the real question being asked is: "Are Blacks Bigots?", and the answer to that question is a resounding YES. So, while it's a true statement that "Blacks" do not have the capacity to Oppress "White Folks"(ie… practice RACISM), they certainly do not lack the ability to hate Whites every bit as much as they've been hated. This is, as Mr. Mooney also stated the nature of the game being played by the people who ask the question in the first place… "SEMANTICS".

  152. Aaron M. Murrell Because we don't know how to to go about it or at th very least so few of us do, it's impossible to get a collective movement going. Many, if not most of us compete with one another, instead of thinking of ourselves as a group like Jews or Caucasians who think that if one wins, we all win and if one loses, we all lose. Look at how we pile on our own who are under attack by the media. At the very leat we could be silent, but no, we have to come out and help destroy that person. When white folk take a hit in the media, we are relativiely quiet but we come out in force to throw one of our own under the bus. This makes me very sad.

    Two, lack of exposure to how to accomplish certain things. When I was younger, I worked among a bunch of folk who owned homes. Everybody I knew rented. After awhile, I was convinced that being a homeowner was both possible & easy because these people kept telling and showing me how it was done. So I bought a house. Most of us are W-2 wage earners. Wealthy people are 1099 earners because they get paid as a business, not an individual. Do most of us know the difference and understand the why and wherefores of this fact? No, because we have limited or no exposure to wealthy people.

    We must bridge the gap of lack of knowledge, respect education and learn to love ourselves. In all honestly, I'm not immune to thinking something is wrong with my appearance because I am in no way Eurocentric. Throw in a flat bum and I'm practically an oxymoron Black person. lol Even as I know it's some b.s. deeply imbedded from this poisonous American environment, I am still hampered by the insecurity. It's something I'm working on.

    None of this is ever going to work if we open a business and proceed to treat white patrons better than black. This happens all the time. Our business has to be every bit as professional as any other business, be it customer service, product display, product knowledge, etc. We have to be as willing to pay our own as we are willing to pay in someone else's store and stop asking for the hook-up. Lastly, we must cycle that money back into our community and invest wisely. We must do for ourselves and if one of us falls, pick 'em up! Dust them off or at least put them in a time out with some professional help. The more businesses we have, the more we can employ our own which means street hustlers can apply their skills legally. Soon we'ld have enoough money to exert political power and aw shucks… The White House will actually represent all people instead of the select few. Imagine that.

    We have to own up to detrimental behavior, confront what causes it and be willing to work on a thing and not spend valuable time tearing one another down so ol' massa will see our betrayal and give us a spot in the big house. (a tv show, recording or sports contract, etc) We must build our OWN house! Why are we relentlessly copied and culture-jacked if we are not both marketable and remarkable??? We are unstoppable in everything we put our effort towards. We are survivors who were born to succeed. I look foward to the day we all can come together as a Pan African group and change this world so all can live as equals.

  153. he who feels it knows it…you dont feel it…and are ignorant for the most part

  154. She did not ask him could she help him. She asked him do you know what line you are in, a big difference.

  155. Do you know how old this interview is? Apparently not.

  156. Jeremy, He answered the direct question being asked. How do you rearrange it into being asked about Bigotry? These are two different definitions. If the interviewer wanted an answer to the question of Bigotry, I'm sure he's intelligent enough to have asked it. Nothing to do with semantics.

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